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re: What Trump has done with violent crime in 1 year is remarkable
Posted on 11/19/25 at 3:27 pm to Azkiger
Posted on 11/19/25 at 3:27 pm to Azkiger
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Head of MAGA, which pushed against defunding the police/"restorative justice", and deporting criminals that the Biden admin let in.
How did he enact this policy in 2023/2024?
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 3:28 pm to 4cubbies
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I know this thread is 5 pages in but did anyone identify Trump’s specific policy that had the biggest impact on violent crime in the past year?
I would argue it's the closed borders and the National Guard.
I get that more citizens are incarcerated than illegals, but illegals increase our incarceration rates by 50%. You have to be dumb or straight up evil if you are okay with that.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 3:28 pm to Azkiger
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Thanks for walking it back.
See now you're just responding to your own straw man, vol 2.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 3:28 pm to dgnx6
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I would argue it's the closed borders and the National Guard.
So what about 2024?
Posted on 11/19/25 at 3:28 pm to cajunangelle
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He cleaned up cities after they were let to go to hell. O
How did Trump clean up cities? Specifically how did he do that?
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OP is saying he had the balls to clean it up and deserves accolades, no?
How can future presidents replicate this feat?
Posted on 11/19/25 at 3:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
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How did he enact this policy in 2023/2024?
Was he speaking out against crime/helping raise awareness in 2023/2024?
Posted on 11/19/25 at 3:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
And you're pretending you're politically neutral vol. 78,842.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 3:30 pm to dgnx6
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I would argue it's the closed borders and the National Guard
Why in 2020 was the crime rate spike when so few people crossed the border?
The crime rate has been dropping since 2020.
This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 11/19/25 at 3:31 pm to ChatGPT of LA
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God your a fricking loser. What makes that? Easy, a person like you who argues, no matter what, to take away from positives of other positions.
Nothing positive that has happened, is supported by you, only because of who your president is, and the party he represents. Its a security mechanism in your own brain, trying to protect your fragile ego, from the reality that your position is a bad ine. Its not a conscious action. Its just inbred stupidity, especially of your "profession ".
If you were freezing, an Trump team started a fire to warm us all and save our lives, youde find a liberal stance and bitch about the effect the smoke might have on global warming.
Youde be cast aside and left to freeze, because the group is in danger by allowing you to infect with moronic stupidity
Posted on 11/19/25 at 3:31 pm to Azkiger
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Was he speaking out against crime/helping raise awareness in 2023/2024?
As he was prior to the post-Covid spike. He was president in 2020, just FYI
Posted on 11/19/25 at 3:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
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As he was prior to the post-Covid spike. He was president in 2020, just FYI
George Floydd was in 2020 as well.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 3:37 pm to dgnx6
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Inflation is also half of what it was under Biden and wages have been outpacing inflation for the first since the end of Trump's first term.
"NUH UH!!!!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! OMB!!!!
" - TDSFP and RogerTheTDSerPosted on 11/19/25 at 3:39 pm to Azkiger
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George Floydd was in 2020 as well.
Well yeah that jumpstarted BLM
What did his "words policy" do? The post-Covid spike came AFTER that period in 2020 when he was doing the same thing.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 3:41 pm to dgnx6
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Inflation is also half of what it was under Biden
When?
Because under Biden, inflation was half what it was under Biden.
It was already lower when trump took over.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:02 pm to Azkiger
quote:The spike is an observation based on data. A sharp rise followed by a return toward baseline suggests a temporary external shock instead of a policy-driven structural change. That doesn’t prove COVID caused it, but it does point in that direction as a working hypothesis.
Your "post covid spike" is suggesting that covid caused it, and once covid passed the crime naturally returned to pre-covid levels.
That's making an assumption, that it was covid, and not policy, that drove the increase.
Calling that an “assumption” isn’t accurate. The assumption would be claiming COVID definitively caused the spike. Saying the spike suggests it came from the COVID period is just a basic inference from the shape of the data.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What did his "words policy" do?
Pushed back against the defund the police movement and spoke out against ANTIFA.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:10 pm to northshorebamaman
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A sharp rise followed by a return toward baseline suggests a temporary external shock instead of a policy-driven structural change.
Explain.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:12 pm to Azkiger
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Pushed back against the defund the police movement and spoke out against ANTIFA.
Again, those words came in 2020, BEFORE the post-Covid spike, while he was President.
How could those words be an effective policy if they came both before and after the spike?
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:18 pm to Azkiger
quote:Because different causes leave different fingerprints in the data.
Explain.
If the rise were caused by policy, you’d expect the numbers to stay elevated as long as the policy stays in place. That’s what a structural change looks like; it creates a new normal until something reverses it.
But when you see a sharp jump followed by a drift back toward the old trendline, that pattern fits a temporary outside shock. Something big hits the system, spikes the numbers, then the effect fades as the shock passes.
It doesn’t prove COVID caused it, but the shape of the data matches what you’d expect from a one-off disruption rather than a policy-driven re-setting of crime levels. Coinciding with a massive temporary shock like COVID strongly suggests the two are directly connected.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 4:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
A few months ago you were arguing with everyone that crime wasnt up at all. Now you are arguing with everyone that its down, but not because of Trump.
No one is listening anymore.
No one is listening anymore.
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