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re: What Trump did wrong

Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:20 pm to
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:20 pm to
Trumps instinct served him well, except in certain areas - like appointments. Rex Tillerson? Omarosa? We’re talking Hindenburg level disasters in choices. Treated the first months of his administration as a freaking reality show.


And one of the things that makes him effective against the left also hurts him. He won’t admit fault or mistakes. At all. It’s pathological, I think on the grand scale it hurts him more than anything.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:25 pm to
Yea, I’ve never seen anyone attacked the way he was 24/7, most of it lies. 99.9% of people crumble. That’s what bothers them so much
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:28 pm to
81 million votes!!!
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
10178 posts
Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:44 pm to
I mean Trump won the election, but his biggest mistake was to not get rid of the Obama holdovers and clean house. Barry did that with most of Ws people and even this moron did this I am sure at the orders of Barry.
Posted by Kraut Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
4770 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 2:11 am to
This post was edited on 12/12/21 at 2:16 am
Posted by SlickRickerz
Member since Oct 2018
2290 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 2:21 am to
Trump lost the election by not firing Fauci. Keeping him in any sort of power cost him big time.
Posted by FtheNWO
Member since Nov 2021
241 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 4:34 am to
Our enemy's primary weapon is deception. They are master illusionists.

Before 2016 how many people knew that the 'media' was almost entirely corrupt?

How many were aware that the education system had been infiltrated and used for indoctrination?

How many people knew that every major corporation would, simultaneously, support BLM following the Floyd charade, as if they all received marching orders? For decades, these companies stayed clear of the political/social realm. They were finally weaponized.

How many people were aware that the two party system was just an illusion? That, when called upon, the establishment 'republican' would align against the outsider Trump?

How many people knew that our military was infiltrated by 'woke' communists at so many high positions? Surely not our military heroes!?

How many people trusted the 'health' care industry as anything but a Rockefeller pharma front? Root cause? What's that? Take this prescription for the rest of your life. Doctors are infallible, didn't you know?

How many people trusted State governments? Well, DC may be corrupt but at least our Governors are honest! Then, when five separate Governors (Cuomo, Wolf, Whitmer, Murphy, Newsome) all, simultaneously, issued executive orders to put covid positive patients into convalescent homes, infecting the most vulnerable at a critical time to maximize death rates and fear at the onset of the pandemic? Who gave them that order?

How many people trusted that voting would be secure? That 'Dominion' and other voting machine companies wouldn't be used to control the vote? It's a trivial exercise for our adversaries to own those companies. That multiple States would stop counting simultaneously, only to all come back on later with just the required 'votes' needed to 'win'. That so many States simultaneously adopted lax and unverifiable mail in voting?
They chose a demented joke of a candidate because it no longer mattered. They could create any amount of 'votes' needed into the tens of millions.

How many people knew that the FBI was utterly corrupt and the Dept. of 'Justice' was stacked full of DS functionaries? That JTTF could 'create' any crime they wanted using a small army of paid 'informants'? That same agency could fake a 'dossier', launder it through media assets, and present it to FISA courts to justify spying on first a Presidential campaign and then the President in office? That those same criminals could then use their created fiction in their other asset, the news media, for thousands of hours of propaganda?

If any of these truths had even been mentioned before Trump forced their revealing it would have been met with the inevitable, inane "That's a Conspiwacy Theeewy!"
Not now. Even the average MSM watching moron knows that the World is very different than they once believed.

Our enemy is far higher than any of these named entities. All these weapons they have were formerly hidden. Their illusions have been shattered for tens of millions of Americans (and world wide). Our enemies are still dangerous. They control nukes and things much worse than covid, but their main weapon, deception, has been compromised.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18556 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 5:12 am to
Cia, FBI, doj aren't vegetarian pussies. By using the media and an obviously fake dossier, they caused the entire nation to be embroiled in a 4 year long conspiracy theory...where the forced debate was whether a sitting president was a secret Russian agent or not.

A special investigation into his friends and family was started just by firing Comey. It was started by the same guy who recommended he fire Comey.

They did everything short of physically beating or killing him. I hate to imagine what they would do to him if he used a figurative broom and swept through those agencies.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55143 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 5:17 am to
I really believe that if Trump had not been such a dick in the first debate he would have won by enough that the vote harvesting would not have been enough to beat him.

All those interruptions and insults played to the “own the dems” crowd, but it alienated a lot of folks who are swing voters. And like them or not, they decide elections, not you and me.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55143 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 5:21 am to
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How do you get around a stolen election? 81 million people voted for a senile old man. No way!

WAY! You persist with that ridiculous conclusion, which is right in a way - they did not vote for Biden - but it’s ultimately wrong because they DID vote against Trump. That’s the part you intentionally ignore. I know conservatives who hated voting for Biden, but they did it because they found Trump to be odious and unstable, AND HE IS!
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36462 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 5:22 am to
I watched but hardly remember any of that. I guess some folks just lock it in more than others. And maybe value the intricacies of a debate moreso than others.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 5:34 am to
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IMO the only thing that Trump got “horribly” wrong, and it cost him his second term, is to not sweep the alphabet agencies bare and start from scratch.


Then you’re in a cult if you think that’s the only thing he did wrong. Here are some that come to mind:

1) Not clocking Big Tech
2) His disastrous 1st debate performance
3) Not railing into Kamala only bringing her up once every two weeks
4) Not firing Fauci
5) Tweeting dumb shite
6) Not sending in the national guard on the Floyd riots
7) Hiring John Bolton
This post was edited on 12/4/21 at 5:57 am
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44364 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 5:45 am to
You left out my favorite appointment: Bolton.



Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36462 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 5:56 am to
quote:

Then you’re in a cult if you think that’s the only thing he did wrong. Here are some that come to mind:

1) Not clocking Big Tech
2) His disastrous 1st debate performance
3) Not firing Fauci
4) Not tweeting dumb shite
5) Not sending in the national guard on the Floyd riots
6) Hiring John Bolton

A person's in a cult if he has a differing perspective than yours? C'mon man. I know you don't think that way.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55143 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 6:44 am to
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I watched but hardly remember any of that.

Wow! No. It was horrible. Very painful to watch. That had no place in a presidential “debate” Biden could not say 10 words without Trump interrupting. Anyone who didn’t know anything about either would have voted for Biden after that debate.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36462 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 6:47 am to
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Anyone who didn’t know anything about either would have voted for Biden after that debate.

Well that's exactly where I get snagged. I do recall thinking to myself as the debates began "In the current political atmosphere in this country, hard to believe folks haven't chosen "sides" a good while ago." Who knows though.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49476 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 6:50 am to
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If he would have emptied the FBI, CIA, Joint Chiefs,

This is obviously what needs to happen - but it is a practical impossibility - without something akin to a complete revolution and restart from scratch.
And the time for that is never more apparent.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23481 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 6:51 am to
The only way to perceive Trump had a disastrous first debate is to deny the obvious corruption of the debate. The whole debate was slanted dramatically against him with the questioning and moderator.

Anyone who can’t see through all of that is a being a moron about the situation.

The options in that debate scenario are fight back and look overly aggressive or sit back and let them slander/lie the whole time. Either road leads to some type of criticism the manipulated population that believes they should hate Trump will latch on to. That is why the corruption is so bad.

It is remarkable how ignorant people are on Trump. He has been interviewed so many times and clearly identifies the tactics of the corrupt deep state and the different strategies to combat them. The fact we still have people buying the deep state narrative on Trump instead of recognizing the reality of the corruption he was up against is just scary.
This post was edited on 12/4/21 at 7:00 am
Posted by RAB
Member since Aug 2019
1704 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 6:54 am to
He didn’t drain the swamp. That’s his great failure.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36462 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 6:58 am to
I say to hell with it and go straight for the jugular....."Trump didn't do everything perfectly." Note that "perfectly" changes from person to person, so..

I would imagine he was fully aware of the nonsense of this exercise in everyone choosing (with hindsight, mind you) his or her thing Trump failed at, knew it would be that way, and thus he blocked out all that racket and did things the way he felt best for the most people under the circumstances of the moment.

**And I ain't trying to put you on blast specifically, just general commentary.
This post was edited on 12/4/21 at 7:05 am
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