re: What the heck is the benefit of letting finland and sweden join NATO, more tit suckers

I'll go ya one further... Why in the **** are WE in NATO at this point? Our country is bankrupt and living on a credit card whose payments are overdue and we continue to throw an expensive party for our "friends" in NATO.

Wonder how long they'd stick around if the power, water , and TV got turned off at the host's house?

I'm with ya. More tit-suckers is about what they amount to. Of course, maybe it would help if our nation wouldn't unbutton her blouse and flash her tits around the world with such regularity.

At the very beginning, President Washington warned us about getting entangled in Europe's affairs. But no! Everyone is so much more enlightened now!

Trinnie - You're absolutely right about this, but there's so much further we need to go with it.

Every time Germany cranks up the War Machine something good happens.

They are already somewhat associate members just like Switzerland, just not full members.

They know Russia a helluva better than Politards do

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I'll go ya one further... Why in the **** are WE in NATO at this point?

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Disruption in international economic/trade is most devastating to the country with the largest GDP and multi-continent trade. NATO is the strongest military alliance in world history, which is why the UN has to request NATO do the jobs necessary when conflict breaks out.

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Our country is bankrupt and living on a credit card whose payments are overdue

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This is true everywhere and we still are the most stable country with the most stable currency. That's why the inflationary effects of Covid spending are hitting us less than other countries and the USD is stronger than it's been in some time.

We're not doing what I'd call "well", but we're doing better than pretty much anyone else who matters.

If you want to see America crumble, disrupt international commerce and trading. We have shown we can survive with printing, but we cannot survive when trade is disrupted. Pax Americana has a high cost, but it's been shown over the pat 50-60 years that the benefits and profits outweigh those costs.

The days of the US needing a stable world for trading passed decades ago, we have been in a trade deficit for decades, and every year it gets worse.

Oh there are the "new world economists" who tell us trade must always balance you silly goose its a simple accounting measure, it must balance each year there is no "trade imbalance".

Oh they are correct, we buy far more goods than we sell and the balance is made up in....cash. We buy goods from china and they buy, our land, our companies, influence in our govt and universities. And we see it in our daily lives.

While we piss away money on IDB, World Bank, UN, NATO, china builds infrastructure with loans, and takes the assets when payment is not made. Those same countries you speak of because of our benevolence laugh at us openly when we ask they pay their fair share. They scold us about our human rights while we protect them. They protect their markets while they exploit and devestate ours.

And our politicians help them with onerous taxes to drive our companies and future capitol offshore never to return.

If Europe wants nato let them have nato. We should save that money and form a balanced economic alliance with India. Far far far more beneficial to us than Sweden or Finland.

The more countries with us the better off we are in containing the Russian Soviets and Chinese Commies

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Pax Americana has a high cost, but it's been shown over the pat 50-60 years that the benefits and profits outweigh those costs.

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I'm not certain that I'd agree that the benefits and profits outweigh the costs when the cost is our liberty and independence. We're essentially on-call for the rest of the world whenever they have a problem and want someone else to
1) pay for, and
2) perform the dirty work

Every treaty a nation enters into with another nation requires, of necessity, a loss of some degree of sovereignty. Right now, I don't know that we have maintained our nation's sovereignty enough to be anything other than subject to the whines and demands of our European "allies."

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It'll provoke Russia into taking action for the clear violation of the agreement to end eastern expansion of NATO

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First, can you link this agreement? I mean the signed treaty that was approved by the US congress. Because those are the only valid agreements.

Second, Russia taking action against American led NATO is like a four year old child taking action against LeBron James.

More US puppets.