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re: What mistakes has Trump made with pandemic?
Posted on 3/20/20 at 4:20 pm to samson73103
Posted on 3/20/20 at 4:20 pm to samson73103
We got our first case in January on the exact same day as S. Korea. They, having been through SARS and H1N1, immediately began taking harsh, methodical, relentless measures to stamp it out. We did not. The fault for that lies in a bunch of places. But there is no denying that this thing wasn't taken nearly as seriously as it should have been until at best a week ago. If we could do all over again, do you not think we would handle things differently?
Posted on 3/20/20 at 4:25 pm to samson73103
He should have mobilized a medical supply chain and testing effort on a WWII-industrial scale about two or three weeks ago. He can still do it. I also think he should have pressed some governors, specifically DeSantis, to lock shite down earlier; between the spring breakers dispersing back to their home states and the elderly population in Florida, I fear that is going to be a shite show here in a few weeks.
He's had some hits and some misses. Those were his biggest misses.
He's had some hits and some misses. Those were his biggest misses.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 4:26 pm to samson73103
Called it a hoax while congress members sold off stock. They thought it would be bad.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 4:26 pm to samson73103
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What mistakes has Trump made with pandemic?
Ignoring it for 2 weeks wasn't great.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 4:29 pm to OBReb6
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Allowing CNN at his press conferences
This and the rest of the bunch. These "press conferences" should be held without any press....just the experts telling us what is going on!
Posted on 3/20/20 at 4:37 pm to Jinks
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I think a lot of the messaging was a little misleading at first but I think Trump was truly playing it down to prevent panic.
but letting the CDC/NIH people scare the shite out of the public, leading these government authoritarian mayors/governors to destroy their economies will cost him in NOV. He/they should have called for shelter in place for elderly/sick and not the 99% that won't have anything worse than a cold.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 4:48 pm to 91TIGER
Interesting responses. Some of the blame is on government bureaucracy not on Trump IMO.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 4:53 pm to samson73103
Liberals point to these mistakes:
Cutting funding to cdc prior to this
Not taking the tests offered early on and slowwww to get our rolled out
Generally downplaying it early on
Calling it Chinese
At the same time they give no credit for the President closing travel from China and Europe quicker than his counterparts. And he has engaged the private sector probably more than a democrat would have.
When it boils down to the numbers we are talking about a virus infecting 5 percent of those currently tested who are sick. And of those positive it kills about 1 percent. So...about 200,000 nationally based on current results. Now that could exponentially rise if more than 5 percent are getting infected obviously. And it could be much lower than 5 percent because of the asymptomatic carriers out there. The risk could also fall if these drugs cut the mortality rate in half also.... so much unknown yet.
Cutting funding to cdc prior to this
Not taking the tests offered early on and slowwww to get our rolled out
Generally downplaying it early on
Calling it Chinese
At the same time they give no credit for the President closing travel from China and Europe quicker than his counterparts. And he has engaged the private sector probably more than a democrat would have.
When it boils down to the numbers we are talking about a virus infecting 5 percent of those currently tested who are sick. And of those positive it kills about 1 percent. So...about 200,000 nationally based on current results. Now that could exponentially rise if more than 5 percent are getting infected obviously. And it could be much lower than 5 percent because of the asymptomatic carriers out there. The risk could also fall if these drugs cut the mortality rate in half also.... so much unknown yet.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 4:55 pm to zeebo
quote:That's the funny part.
Being A Republican.
To the core, he's not even a Republican.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 4:57 pm to GeneralLee
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This is probably more on the CDC,
FDA regs
Posted on 3/20/20 at 4:59 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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1) He's a Republican
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2) He listened to the always failing CDC
This post was edited on 3/20/20 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 3/20/20 at 4:59 pm to longwayfromLA
If Trump had taken "harsh, methodical, relentless measures" very early, you and most Americans would have shite golden bricks--ESPECIALLY if the measures worked.
The media would have screamed overreaction.
The media would have screamed overreaction.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 5:21 pm to samson73103
“We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”
— Jan. 21, 2020 (interview)
“Looks like by April, you know, in theory, when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away.”
— Feb. 10 (campaign rally)
“We're very close to a vaccine.”
— Feb. 25 (news conference)
“When you have 15 [cases in the United States], and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.”
— Feb. 26 (news conference)
“This is a flu. This is like a flu.”
— Feb. 26 (news conference)
“But the same vaccine could not work? You take a solid flu vaccine — you don’t think that would have an impact or much of an impact on corona?”
— March 2 (remarks)
“I don’t want any deaths, right? But over the last long period of time, when people have the flu, you have an average of 36,000 people dying. I’ve never heard those numbers. I would — I would’ve been shocked. I would’ve said, ‘Does anybody die from the flu?’ I didn’t know people died from the flu — 36,000 people died.”
— March 6 (remarks)
“Anybody that wants a test can get a test.”
— March 6 (remarks)
“We have a problem that a month ago nobody ever thought about.”
— March 16 (news conference)
“I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic.”
— March 17 (news conference)
Posted on 3/20/20 at 5:23 pm to LSUconvert
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Ignoring it for 2 weeks wasn't great.
Is that when you were all self quarantined?
Half rhetorical...half calling bull fricking shite on this stance.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 5:31 pm to samson73103
This one time he said google was working on something and it ended up not being google but a different company under alphabet
This post was edited on 3/20/20 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 3/20/20 at 5:44 pm to TigerAxeOK
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quote:
Being A Republican.
That's the funny part.
To the core, he's not even a Republican.
The Republican Party has changed. It is now whatever Trump wants it to be. Guess you missed the memo
Posted on 3/20/20 at 5:58 pm to samson73103
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Someone clue me into what he has done wrong.
He undersold the severity of this for way too long. He was telling people it was a stock buying opportunity in late February and citing flu stats and how prepared we are and it blew up in his face. But most of this is PR. His worst mistake was not banning travel near fast enough. Travel to Italy/Europe should have been banned at least two weeks before it was but the airline CEOs were probably freaking out and Trump's focus was the stock market.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 6:02 pm to DallasTiger11
That’s all true, but what matters is what he and admin are doing now
Have to hope and pray they continue to mobilize
Have to hope and pray they continue to mobilize
Posted on 3/20/20 at 6:10 pm to GregMaddux
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This one time he said google was working on something and it ended up not being google but a different company under alphabet
yeah it would be helpful if people were more detailed and provided accurate context...
we all know Trump talks freely most of the time, with that comes a mixed bag of exaggeration and being wrong...
but I don't consider them lies when he says something not 100% true...that's not his intent...
his intent has a message, you have to listen without trying to be hyper critical about everything little thing he says...to understand his thought process and what he wants done
Posted on 3/20/20 at 6:21 pm to Alabama Slim
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I understand why he did it but his messaging in the first few days was way to Rosey. He had to have been given the same forecast that made senators sell all their stock. He should know he wasn't going to stop a mass sell off with his press briefings.
With this media he was damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. If he downplays it the media screams that he is not taking it seriously. If he treats it seriously the media will scream he is overreacting and causing a panic.
The only solution, like an earlier poster said, would have been to put the media in its place earlier and in this case that place would have been Italy.
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