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re: What keeps the stock market afloat?
Posted on 4/3/23 at 8:15 pm to tiggerfan02 2021
Posted on 4/3/23 at 8:15 pm to tiggerfan02 2021
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The dollar is finished.
Um, no. There's nothing to replace it. The Yuan "might" have been a replacement, but China debases their currency worse than we do. It has to be a BIG currency. We can't use Panamanian Balboas or some shite.
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 8:21 pm to burger bearcat
Biden's and his comrade hen handlers are at the helm of the ship of state, but a big ship takes a long time to stop.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 8:24 pm to burger bearcat
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What keeps the stock market afloat?
Posted on 4/3/23 at 8:24 pm to burger bearcat
The problem is the USD is the least shitty currency in the entire world. Every other government already has the US printing press long defeated.
China's currency is an utter joke, same as Russia, and we know how African countries handle their money. The USD, sadly, is still going to be the main currency in the world.
China's currency is an utter joke, same as Russia, and we know how African countries handle their money. The USD, sadly, is still going to be the main currency in the world.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 9:28 pm to burger bearcat
6/30/23 SPY 385p currently have a 6$ premium. It's a steal.
The OI is a dead give away fwiw.
The OI is a dead give away fwiw.
This post was edited on 4/3/23 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 4/3/23 at 10:09 pm to Tantal
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Um, no. There's nothing to replace it. The Yuan "might" have been a replacement, but China debases their currency worse than we do. It has to be a BIG currency. We can't use Panamanian Balboas or some shite.
You aren't looking at the big picture.
When the dollar goes down it takes the whole world's economy with it.
Enter a global CBDC controlled by a cabal of global financiers and mega-corporations with full support of all the big tech companies. It is already in the works with all of the major players testing digital currency and social credit scores. They are laying the foundation to make it a worldwide standard.It's about CONTROL, not what is best for the average Joe working his arse off to save something for retirement.
The fall of the USD is being engineered on purpose.
Too many people are unwilling to believe our own government is in on it, to the benefit of the connected few, at the expense of the great majority of people who just want the damn government to get out of the way.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 10:11 pm to bayoumuscle21
Explain this to me like I am 5 please.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 10:15 pm to TrueTiger
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The media assigns the public its opinions. The assignment is that the market is stable and will come out OK.
First sentence = correct.
Second sentence = terribly wrong. Every single news outlet, and especially financial related media shows, are all doom and gloom talk about impending recession.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 10:27 pm to burger bearcat
My understanding of economics is more political and historical. I think there’s been a union between the Fed and corporate America, with the policy apparatus backstopping all of it, that has totally decoupled the trading of equities from the realities of life in America. There is no way that it ends well, but I expect they will instigate a war as default looms. If you doubt that they’d risk your life, or even all life on earth, to protect their gains, then you are a sweet summer child.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 10:31 pm to burger bearcat
No alternative
Posted on 4/4/23 at 12:06 am to JColtF
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Inflation
Explain how inflation keeps the stock market high
Posted on 4/4/23 at 12:07 am to kingbob
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Real estate prices are cratering,
Where is this happening and what kind of real estate is “cratering”?
Posted on 4/4/23 at 12:33 am to burger bearcat
quote:Pisses a lot of you off, doesn't it, when the desperately hoped for doom and gloom just doesn't materialize?
What keeps the stock market afloat?
I generally don't get it. Housing has slowed down and commercial construction is slowing down. Inflation is still out of control in raw materials and food. Tech sector is laying people off en masse, retail and fast food is laying off en masse.
What keeps the dollar still king, and why doesn't the market crash?
Posted on 4/4/23 at 12:33 am to burger bearcat
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Are the moves being made by BRICS about to put an end to this?
noPosted on 4/4/23 at 12:33 am to oldskule
quote:Then you won't mind pointing us to said numbers. Pick 5 metrics that aren't lying and lay them out for us, genius.
Economics is strictly numbers, and numbers do not lie.
Posted on 4/4/23 at 12:36 am to notiger1997
quote:It's not. It's just another hoped-for dismal outcome by the dullards on this board who always just ignore it when they are repeatedly proven wrong.
Where is this happening and what kind of real estate is “cratering”?
Notice how nobody in this thread has even mentioned earnings.
Posted on 4/4/23 at 12:58 am to Big Scrub TX
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Pisses a lot of you off, doesn't it, when the desperately hoped for doom and gloom just doesn't materialize?
It materialized last year and we've been treading water since.
Throw a party if you wish.
Posted on 4/4/23 at 1:19 am to burger bearcat
Companies have value. Which companies do you think are overvalued? The stock market isn’t a thing, as far as valuation is concerned, it is an amalgamation of things.
A recession is already priced into the valuations, which is why we have had no increase in overall values since before the pandemic, in spite of high inflation. In real values, the stock market has been deflating for years.
The reason it doesn’t crash is because folks have to store their wealth somewhere. They damn sure don’t want it in cash or bonds.
A recession is already priced into the valuations, which is why we have had no increase in overall values since before the pandemic, in spite of high inflation. In real values, the stock market has been deflating for years.
The reason it doesn’t crash is because folks have to store their wealth somewhere. They damn sure don’t want it in cash or bonds.
Posted on 4/4/23 at 1:36 am to bird35
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If there are twice as many dollars as they were 5 years ago and the Stock Market is the same that really means stocks fell by 50%.
You are on to something, but no, that doesn’t follow. You are leaving out a major component, which is the supply of goods. If supply of goods kept pace with the money supply then the increase in money supply would not signal a drop in stock real value.
We have had a sudden and large expansion of the money supply, and there is no way the supply of goods kept pace, so there has been a decline in real value of stocks, but not by the ratio of the new money supply divided into the old.
Posted on 4/4/23 at 1:43 am to burger bearcat
speculation, but its waning.....
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