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re: What is your definition of the line between disagreement/Dislike and TDS?
Posted on 6/28/26 at 7:52 pm to BrodyDad
Posted on 6/28/26 at 7:52 pm to BrodyDad
I used to say if you can’t name one thing Trump has done that you like, you have full blown TDS.
Now I’d say if you can’t name 5 things you have TDS.
Now I’d say if you can’t name 5 things you have TDS.
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Posted on 6/28/26 at 7:57 pm to shoelessjoe
I support trump on most things BUT, I have thought from day 1 that he made a big mistake getting involved in that Iran war. You can make mistakes that you can recover from but not this one. This is going to lead to a major change in the way the usa projects power in the world. But in the long run, that might be a good thing.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 8:01 pm to texas tortilla
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I support trump on most things BUT, I have thought from day 1 that he made a big mistake getting involved in that Iran war.
I can see your point. But, what we don’t know about the behind the scenes variable, we can’t judge. We don’t have the intel or the actual intelligence used to make the decision that has been made. We can all say don’t get involved. What would we say once the nuke is sent towards the mainland? What if it was more than we perceive and this war was needed to end what could be a huge problem.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 8:06 pm to BrodyDad
TRUMP is TRUMP, always has been....and thank God for him to be our Prez at this point in history!
Posted on 6/28/26 at 8:31 pm to shoelessjoe
I think hegseth ask for an additional 80 billion to fund the Iran war. They also asked for an additional 500 billion for next year's pentagon budget. Yet there are too many things needing fixing here. They need 20 billion more to fix air traffic control system. They always find the money to go blow shite up. I think we gave ukraine over 100 billion. Trump led me to believe he wasn't a military industrial complex guy. But he is.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 8:40 pm to shoelessjoe
That's a perfectly legitimate argument to make: "I like his policies enough that I'm willing to overlook his personal conduct."
But that's not the same thing as saying those things don't matter or that people who point them out have "TDS."
If another politician had six bankruptcies, refused to pay contractors, was found liable for sexual abuse, had multiple fraud judgments, wore makeup, dodged the draft, and spent years selling himself as a blue-collar champion while living a billionaire lifestyle, I suspect you'd have no problem bringing those things up.
My point isn't that you can't vote for Trump.
My point is that it's fascinating how many working-class conservatives identify with someone whose life has almost nothing in common with their own. That's the part I've never understood.
But that's not the same thing as saying those things don't matter or that people who point them out have "TDS."
If another politician had six bankruptcies, refused to pay contractors, was found liable for sexual abuse, had multiple fraud judgments, wore makeup, dodged the draft, and spent years selling himself as a blue-collar champion while living a billionaire lifestyle, I suspect you'd have no problem bringing those things up.
My point isn't that you can't vote for Trump.
My point is that it's fascinating how many working-class conservatives identify with someone whose life has almost nothing in common with their own. That's the part I've never understood.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 9:26 pm to CrystalPreserves
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My point is that it's fascinating how many working-class conservatives identify with someone whose life has almost nothing in common with their own. That's the part I've never understood.
Point taken. I never really followed Trump until he ran for office in 2016. I knew of him but thought of the celebrity instead of listened to him. Then, my FIL god rest his soul, one of the few men I ever respected, started explaining who and what Trump was and represented, did I listen. In 2016, I voted for him because of the SCOTUS. I wanted judges that would benefit conservative beliefs. Then when he beat Hillary, which I didn’t think was possible, I really got behind him. It’s not about his past, it’s about what the establishment did and at what lengths they went too, to try to take him down. There is a reason they didn’t want him in office and it’s why after 2020 he was elected again. To see the establishment do it again tells everyone there is something there that still needs to be done.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 9:29 pm to texas tortilla
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Trump led me to believe he wasn't a military industrial complex guy. But he is.
Again what if there is something we don’t know about that could destroy humanity? What if the actual truth was hidden from us? There could be a greater plan behind all of this that we may not be privy too. After everything the establishment has put Trump through, and they are against the war, is why I trust him above what others are saying.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 9:30 pm to BrodyDad
If you’re a whiney bitch that complains about everything without understanding that nothing will ever be perfect, especially in politics, you have tds.
Also if you get mad because others support Trump and don’t publicly criticize him to satisfy yourself you’re a low life loser who thinks they can control others.
Also if you get mad because others support Trump and don’t publicly criticize him to satisfy yourself you’re a low life loser who thinks they can control others.
This post was edited on 6/28/26 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 6/28/26 at 9:30 pm to BrodyDad
The line is where the commies set the line
Posted on 6/28/26 at 10:01 pm to shoelessjoe
I appreciate the thoughtful reply.
Where we differ is on this point:
I don't think "the establishment opposed him" is evidence that he's right. Sometimes powerful institutions oppose someone because they're protecting themselves. Sometimes they oppose someone because they believe he broke rules or poses a genuine risk. Those aren't the same thing.
For me, I try to evaluate the underlying facts, not use the opposition itself as proof of virtue.
If tomorrow every major institution opposed another politician, I wouldn't automatically assume that person was the hero either. I'd still want to know whether the allegations and evidence actually held up.
Where we differ is on this point:
I don't think "the establishment opposed him" is evidence that he's right. Sometimes powerful institutions oppose someone because they're protecting themselves. Sometimes they oppose someone because they believe he broke rules or poses a genuine risk. Those aren't the same thing.
For me, I try to evaluate the underlying facts, not use the opposition itself as proof of virtue.
If tomorrow every major institution opposed another politician, I wouldn't automatically assume that person was the hero either. I'd still want to know whether the allegations and evidence actually held up.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 10:03 pm to BrodyDad
When a person can't see a cause and effect in any situation without it being blamed on Trump.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 10:08 pm to BrodyDad
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What is your definition of the line between disagreement/Dislike and TDS?
TDS I think is actually just a symptom of pre-existing mental illness. People who dislike/disagree with Trump are just dumbasses.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:11 pm to CrystalPreserves
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I don't think "the establishment opposed him" is evidence that he's right. Sometimes powerful institutions oppose someone because they're protecting themselves. Sometimes they oppose someone because they believe he broke rules or poses a genuine risk. Those aren't the same thing.
Agree to disagree. I look at 2016 vs 2024 Trump. He was liked and loved before 2016, by the same people hated him. Not because of policy, but because he knew the truth about them. Russia was started by Hillary which was a close friend of his before. He knew what they were doing before he decided to run. The media backed everything that was proven false. Fast forward to 2024. Trump has survived everything thrown at him. They now know this ends with Trump not having to need their backing or money. He can’t be bought and the same ones that pushed Russia, RINO included, want him gone. He is a threat to their power. Rules were definitely broken, by the establishment. Trump wants the nuclear dust from Iran for a reason. It’s to prove once and for all that Obama was involved. The establishment is protecting themselves.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:33 pm to CrystalPreserves
You stupid frick.
Trump is your parties fault.
You forced hillary down our throats. He was NEVER supposed to win. Americans despised her THAT badly.
Then you stupid fricks "voted" for Biden 81 million times.
4 years later he couldn't form a complete sentence in public so you shoved Kamala in front of him, who also camnot form a complete sentence.
Your presidential hatred is actually self loathing in disguise. You dumb fricking idiots did it to yourselves.... and are now quadrupling down.
Best of luck.
Trump is your parties fault.
You forced hillary down our throats. He was NEVER supposed to win. Americans despised her THAT badly.
Then you stupid fricks "voted" for Biden 81 million times.
4 years later he couldn't form a complete sentence in public so you shoved Kamala in front of him, who also camnot form a complete sentence.
Your presidential hatred is actually self loathing in disguise. You dumb fricking idiots did it to yourselves.... and are now quadrupling down.
Best of luck.
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