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re: What is the point in banning/confiscating ar-15s, but not shotguns?

Posted on 9/12/19 at 10:58 pm to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57230 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 10:58 pm to
quote:

it's not about homicide and suicide. it's about mass shootings
Hands and feet kill more people than all rifles combined.

You should ask why some political groups are so hyper-focused on "solving" a non-existent "problem".
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 10:59 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111519 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 11:02 pm to
quote:

You know damn well you wouldn’t use a shotgun for a mass shooting.

And yet they were used in approximately 13% of mass shootings (semi auto rifles is behind hand guns at 25%).
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90510 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 11:08 pm to
quote:


can do a lot of damage but there's a reason soldiers are armed with automatic and semiautomatic rifles








Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16569 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 11:15 pm to
quote:

Ok. Tell us about how you’d fire off two hundred rounds from a shotgun in a restaurant.


One mag at a time. Fostech Origin 12ga.



You must like showing what a moron you are...
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49237 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 12:25 am to
want
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9294 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 12:38 am to
quote:

it's not about homicide... it's about mass shootings


Can you explain why one innocent person killed by a gun is different than another innocent person killed by a different gun?
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9294 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 12:41 am to
quote:


they don't want to get mowed down in school or at the mall, etc

This is like someone paranoid they are going to get hit by a bolt of lightning.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
24288 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:13 am to
quote:

it's not about homicide and suicide. it's about mass shootings

Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:44 am to
The kid who perpetrated the Santa Fe (Texas) school shooting used a 12-gauge shotgun.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 2:17 am to
It's step one. They need to crawl before they try to outright ban guns.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 2:33 am to
quote:

can do a lot of damage but there's a reason soldiers are armed with automatic and semiautomatic rifles.





you are correct but it is not for the reason you think.

Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 2:56 am to
quote:

The kid who perpetrated the Santa Fe (Texas) school shooting used a 12-gauge shotgun


Iirc, Columbine as well
Posted by Rocco Lampone
Raleigh, NC
Member since Nov 2010
3051 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 3:47 am to
It’s an easier first step for them.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 4:58 am to
quote:

A shotgun can arguably do far more damage in less time, depending on circumstances. Especially in a setting like a crowded classroom or restaurant, etc


The goal isn't to stop random shootings. The goal is to restrict your ability to organize to fight an oppressive police state.

Look at what is going on in England with Brexit and in Hong Kong.

The objective is you vote however you want, we'll rule however we want.
This post was edited on 9/13/19 at 5:00 am
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22297 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 5:15 am to
Real-world scenario:

Scenario 1. Mass-shooter has 10 x 30-round magazines (300 rounds total) and is highly skilled at changing mags.

Scenario 2. Mass-shooter has 30 x 10-round magazines (300 rounds total) and is highly skilled at changing mags.

Assuming mag swaps take approx 3-4 seconds, would the shooter be less successful in Scenario 2 by taking his eye off the ball for 3-4 second stretches?? Would the extra cumulative time needed to change out mags in Scenario 2 have a material difference?
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16973 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 5:22 am to
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Their strategy is to ban rifles, which are the weapon best suited for defense against an oppressive government.

You just proved OP wrong with this statement. If it's the best defense then it's obviously more dangerous than a shotgun.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57681 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 5:53 am to
quote:

Go to a gun range and fire a hundred rounds from an AR-15. Then try that with a shotgun.


I’m not sure you understand how a “SHOT-GUN” works
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
5525 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 6:01 am to
Because the evil ar-15 will allow them to open up the slippery slope to allowing bans on firearms until they are all banned.

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98767 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 6:11 am to
Patience...we'll get to you.

Sincerely,

Gungrabbers
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24954 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 6:16 am to
I wonder if the lefties have any idea how many of these scary rifles are in circulation? It isn’t like owning an AR-15 is some rare weird thing... it is the most popular semi-automatic rifle in the country. They are chambered in many different calibers and are used by thousands of kids to get introduced to big game hunting.
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