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What is the point in banning/confiscating ar-15s, but not shotguns?
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:43 pm
A shotgun can arguably do far more damage in less time, depending on circumstances.
Especially in a setting like a crowded classroom or restaurant, etc
Especially in a setting like a crowded classroom or restaurant, etc
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:44 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Ask the Navy Yard shooter
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:44 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
can do a lot of damage but there's a reason soldiers are armed with automatic and semiautomatic rifles.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:47 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
AR-15s have much higher capacity
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:48 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Their strategy is to ban rifles, which are the weapon best suited for defense against an oppressive government. Once that happens and the firearm homicide and suicide rates remain unchanged (and they KNOW they will, because rifles of any type only comprise 400 murders in total each year), then they will go after handguns, leaving the civilian population with bolt action rifles and shotguns. At that point any potential resistance will have been effectively neutered.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:48 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
It's kind of like eating a bicycle. You have to start somewhere.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:49 pm to arcalades
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can do a lot of damage but there's a reason soldiers are armed with automatic and semiautomatic rifles.
And there’s a reason why germany wanted shotguns banned from use in warfare when they were using poison gas, machine guns, tanks, and artillery.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:51 pm to TideCPA
quote:it's not about homicide and suicide. it's about mass shootings
Their strategy is to ban rifles, which are the weapon best suited for defense against an oppressive government. Once that happens and the firearm homicide and suicide rates remain unchanged (and they KNOW they will, because rifles of any type only comprise 400 murders in total each year), then they will go after handguns, leaving the civilian population with bolt action rifles and shotguns. At that point any potential resistance will have been effectively neutered.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:53 pm to chalmetteowl
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it's not about homicide and suicide. it's about mass shootings
It’s not about logic, it’s about emotion.
Thanks for admitting that
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:54 pm to chalmetteowl
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it's not about homicide
At least you admit it. This has nothing to do with reducing deaths.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:55 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Go to a gun range and fire a hundred rounds from an AR-15. Then try that with a shotgun.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:58 pm to crimsonsaint
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Then try that with a shotgun.
I can easily shoot 200 rounds shooting trap. Wtf are you smoking hoss?
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:59 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I provided a link to the House bill in that other thread. I just scanned it, but it looks like they want to come after everything that you do not have to manually put another round in the chamber. The list may exempt some current models that would fall into that category, but that's where they want to go.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:59 pm to Flats
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At least you admit it. This has nothing to do with reducing deaths.
most people aren't scared of drug trade gun violence in known bad parts of their cities. Those deaths come like a drip, drip. One or two every week in most big cities and it's people that mostly have it coming by being poor.
they don't want to get mowed down in school or at the mall, etc.
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 9/12/19 at 10:00 pm to chalmetteowl
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they don't want to get mowed down in school or at the mall, etc.
Yeah. Like I said....
Emotion.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 10:00 pm to chalmetteowl
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it's not about homicide and suicide. it's about mass shootings
Handguns are used in mass shootings more than any other type of weapon by a wide margin. Semi-auto rifles kill fewer people annually than bathtubs.
Going after rifles means you’re either completely ignorant and irrational, or you simply want to render the populace defenseless against an oppressive regime. Either way, GFY.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 10:02 pm to chalmetteowl
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they don't want to get mowed down in school or at the mall, etc.
Then they should look at the math and quit wetting their pants over scary guns when a host of other things that are far more likely to kill them than a mass shooter.
If you want to take away my private property and restrict my rights, I sure as hell hope you have a better argument than your emotions.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 10:02 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
AR-15 first.
Shotguns come next.
They planning on eating this elephant one bite at the time.
Shotguns come next.
They planning on eating this elephant one bite at the time.
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