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re: What is the logic behind this deportation? What is the purpose?

Posted on 6/25/25 at 2:59 pm to
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86127 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 2:59 pm to
Like many things with left-leaning folks, the starting places are always inverted.

Ie, Your money is the government's and they're letting you keep some of what you earn

On immigration, it shouldn't be "why should this non-citizen be deported?" instead of "why should this non-citizen be here?"

We don't owe anything to these people.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18916 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:01 pm to
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You consult AI to think for you because you don't know anything.


And you make shite up to look worse than it is
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13800 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:02 pm to
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I wonder if her family's position in Iran disqualified her from asylum.

If anything, that should have easily qualified her for it. It did thousands of other Iranians from that time frame.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57013 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:02 pm to
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You consult AI to think for you because you don't know anything.


Before you start throwing stones, you are admitting to not knowing anything about immigration law and you aren't trying to educate yourself. At the very least, you can ask AI a general question about it, or google the information and educate yourself.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59312 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:05 pm to
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Like many things with left-leaning folks, the starting places are always inverted.



She was allowed to stay in this country under various administrations. None of them ordered her deportation.

This situation is akin to the whole class being punished because the teacher doesn't know who launched the spitball. Illogical consequences.

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We don't owe anything to these people.

Based on the information provided, this woman was not a drain on taxpayers before she was detained. Now she is.
This post was edited on 6/25/25 at 3:06 pm
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18916 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:06 pm to
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None of them ordered her deportation.


Neither has this administration
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59312 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:07 pm to
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At the very least, you can ask AI a general question about it,


I've consulted AI enough to know it's frequently wrong.

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or google the information and educate yourself.


I have googled. I'm not an immigration expert after a half hour of Googling.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
18145 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:07 pm to
Wow, 8 pages. What's your record?
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28702 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:08 pm to
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Say what?!??!! Why in the frick would she ever qualify for Medicare



Oh, I don't know...maybe because she's been paying Social Security taxes for 40+ years?

Look, I'm not defending her for overstaying her visa. And I'm not saying she was here legally. To me it sounds like someone who committed a crime, was put on probation, but then gets taken to jail even though she didn't violate the terms of her probation.

The woman clearly wasn't hiding if she made all her court dates. And they certainly didn't have any trouble finding her.

I'm not saying she should have a SS card or a driver's license. But it seems like so many people are up in arms over her having a social security card and are oblivious to the fact that she's paid social security taxes for decades. It's a pretty fricked up system that takes social security taxes from someone with no intention of ever giving them benefits.

She should have left when she lost her bid for asylum. But can you blame her for not wanting to go back to fricking Iran, especially when her father worked for the Shah? She probably would have been executed as soon as she got off the plane. What boggles my mind is that someone from her background lost her bid for asylum. I would think that anyone from Iran with a connection to the Shah during that era would be a shoe in...much like Cubans were for so many years. So maybe there is more to this story and why she was denied.

She could have picked another country to move to. I would think that Canada would be a prime choice. Canada probably would have welcomed her with open arms.

If she had moved to Canada years ago when she lost her asylum claim, she probably wouldn't be in this predicament now, and would be well into a successful next chapter of her life.
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17440 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:08 pm to
I just hope none of you claim to be Christians cause yall are far from it. Jesus will turn a lot of you away at the gates and eternal hell is where you’ll end up. Repent and cleanse your hearts and souls for your own well being.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27031 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:09 pm to
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This situation is akin to the whole class being punished because the teacher doesn't know who launched the spitball. Illogical consequences.


In this scenario, the whole class deserved to be punished all ready, and more and more bad behavior was allowed until eventually they were told enough is enough, that you're getting the punishment you deserved all along.
This post was edited on 6/25/25 at 3:10 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109788 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:09 pm to
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If anything, that should have easily qualified her for it. It did thousands of other Iranians from that time frame.


The red flags are often not-so-carefully camoflauged in these sorts of stories.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18916 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:10 pm to
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The woman clearly wasn't hiding if she made all her court dates.


According to her husband
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33430 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:10 pm to
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What is the logic behind this

At first I thought cubbies had started a thread about Trump making a phone call to Ukraine, then I said, Nah

Maybe it was about an elections phone call in GA. That couldnt be it

Or how NYC got away with retroactively changing a misdemeanor to a felony, so that Trump could be arrested for something the NY AG had already done herself. Ha, cubbies wouldn't touch that

So I narrowed it down to Trumps 2nd impeachment (after he was no longer prez), that even the Chief Justice boycotted. Surely cubbies would be asking what was the point in that?

But No, she wants to know why someone that had violated the law for FIFTY YEARS, shouldnt be able to continue to get away with it?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27031 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:10 pm to
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I've consulted AI enough to know it's frequently wrong.


The board feels the same way about you
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
18145 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:10 pm to
You are obviously not an adept prompter at using AI tools. You go into the exercise assuming that your first responses will not be perfectly accurate.

You use subsequent prompts to ascertain more accurate replies.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13800 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:11 pm to
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If she had moved to Canada years ago when she lost her asylum claim, she probably wouldn't be in this predicament now, and would be well into a successful next chapter of her life.

But she was told by our very own immigration department she didn't have to do that.

I'm not defending her.. although her asylum claim was denied... and since she married an American citizen, it still should have been somewhat easy for her to become a citizen, should it not have?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57013 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:11 pm to
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I've consulted AI enough to know it's frequently wrong.


I sparingly use AI. But for general information, like this. It's accurate. If you are ask AI something simple, you will get an answer that is easily verifiable via google. Essentially AI is nothing more than a faster google search.

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I have googled. I'm not an immigration expert after a half hour of Googling.


Not asking you to be. But you can get some relative quick answers and put 2 and 2 together and make a more informed opinion.
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
25254 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:11 pm to
She had 50 fricking years to become legal

That’s like driving 5,000 times drunk as frick and not getting caught until that one time you got caught driving drunk the 5,001st time

Boo fricking hoo
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
72009 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:11 pm to
I think some of these cases just invite needless criticism and do more harm to the overall agenda than good.
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