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re: What is the logic behind this deportation? What is the purpose?

Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:26 pm to
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It does not seem to be in the USA's best interest to deport her, however.


On the surface, maybe. But, again, we are basing all of our knowledge on a left wing news article with 1 purpose in mind. Rile up people against Trump, even though the fault lies squarely on the woman, the 5th circuit, and the Biden administration.

Do you think nola.com would print an article hanging this on Biden's neck?
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:27 pm to
Can you imagine living in another country on a verbal reprieve..

Do I think they should grant her asylum at this point.. yes

Did she not take care of her business… yes.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:27 pm to
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It is possible for one to believe that the woman should be deported, but also believe that a community would be safer if those others I mentioned went first.


You realize 2 things can happen at once, right?
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:28 pm to
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Decatur, why is 200,000 worse than 24 million deported under Democrats?


Those are rookie numbers and it’s rather amazing what the Trump admin has had to resort to get even that. Anyone got an explanation?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109354 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:28 pm to
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I also agree with the poster who said he'd like to see all the violent criminals, gang bangers, drug dealers, etc, go first.

It is possible for one to believe that the woman should be deported, but also believe that a community would be safer if those others I mentioned went first.


Bad policies, coupled with some questionable recent court rulings, have created a situation where the logistics of this seem to be much more diffiuclt than they should be.

I could expound into the feature versus a bug argument, but I think I will just leave it at that instead.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
15536 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:29 pm to
Makes more sense to deport them as you find them. It’s not playing favorites it’s just doing what’s right.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56686 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:31 pm to
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Those are rookie numbers and it’s rather amazing what the Trump admin has had to resort to get even that.


So, you admit you really don't care about deportation. You're just parroting the media to make Trump look bad because OMB, right?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26816 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:31 pm to
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Anyone got an explanation?


People like 4cubbies bleeding all over the place when someone gets deported?

We have cities and states actively undermining ICE efforts. Citizens getting violent with ICE officers trying to enforce the law.
Posted by Christopher Columbo
Member since Jun 2015
2841 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:32 pm to
Do you ever say anything that isn't stupid as frick?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58472 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:32 pm to
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it’s just doing what’s right.


Right by what standard? Morally?

It is hard to argue that the right thing to do is to detain an immigrant who has been in the country with permission for nearly 50 years, who has worked and paid taxes, has not broken any laws and has fulfilled the requests made of her by the US government.

Is it legal? Absolutely. Is it "right'? That's a hard sell.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56686 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:32 pm to
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People like 4cubbies bleeding all over the place when someone gets deported?

We have cities and states actively undermining ICE efforts. Citizens getting violent with ICE officers trying to enforce the law.


Trump has only deported 200k this year. Democrats have deported 24 million in the last 30 years. We are supposed to think their concern is genuine???
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85745 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:33 pm to
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I am not arguing that the government does not have the right to deport this woman. It does not seem to be in the USA's best interest to deport her, however.



Put a figure on the number of non-citizens without status and/or illegal immigrants living in this country.

How to you propose we use our energy/resources sorting through tens of millions of these people to subjectively determine who is actually pretty nice and not a bad chap and who should go home? And how does that square with your "best interest" calculus if the goal is to purge the United States of people who shouldn't be here and/or have not attempted to gain permanent residency/citizenship/so forth?

This is the rhetorical battle the right will always have with the left that suddenly becomes moderate for the sake of this discussion. The people who at best did nothing (many actively cheerled for it) during the flood of illegal immigration will vaguely say they support enforcing our border and laws but 99% of their immigration energy will be spent raising questions about whether we really need to deport so and so.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

What is the logic behind this deportation? What is the purpose?

quote:

Kashanian came to the United States in 1978 on a student visa and eventually applied for asylum, but her claim was denied


Which part of "illegal" is tripping you up?
This post was edited on 6/25/25 at 6:15 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133382 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:35 pm to
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What is the logic behind this deportation?
I don't feel like reading through this entire thread so maybe this has already been answered, but after reading the link you placed in the OP, I don't see where it says that illegal immigrant has been deported.

It says her case is pending and being litigated.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18679 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:35 pm to
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It is hard to argue that the right thing to do is to detain an immigrant who has been in the country with permission for nearly 50 years, who has worked and paid taxes, has not broken any laws and has fulfilled the requests made of her by the US government.


You have no idea whether any of this is true
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
4266 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:35 pm to
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well that answers that. See ya Donna.



Might as well take our out back and shoot her, sending her to Iran is murder.


So killing unborn fetus = bad
Killing productive resident of 40 years = GOOD!!!



There's no christians left in the GOP.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31439 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:36 pm to
I’m not against deportation in general. Why are we deporting students and others that have a valid basis for being here?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85745 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:38 pm to
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There's no christians left in the GOP.



Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31439 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:38 pm to
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We have cities and states actively undermining ICE efforts. Citizens getting violent with ICE officers trying to enforce the law.


So how did Democratic admins so deftly avoid this?

I’m having a hard time believing that 200k number is accurate. Has anyone confirmed that?
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18679 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 3:39 pm to
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Killing productive resident of 40 years = GOOD!!!


Holy leap, Batman!
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