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re: What is the democrats' plan to secure the border?

Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:26 am to
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:26 am to
God Puto O'Rourke is such a dork.

And he managed to look like a dork against TED CRUZ, of all people
Posted by Chemcorp158
Sadly not the Rocky Mountains
Member since Oct 2017
203 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:32 am to
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They want to arrest American business owners who dare employ the illegals they gladly let in.


We need to. If we start taking away the incentives to come here illegally it will slow down. Hire illegals, get arrested. No welfare for illegals. Stop giving citizen services to those here illegally. All of this along with a wall and the illegal issue will resolve itself.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27200 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:34 am to
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If we start taking away the incentives to come here illegally it will slow down. Hire illegals, get arrested. No welfare for illegals. Stop giving citizen services to those here illegally. All of this along with a wall and the illegal issue will resolve itself.


I agree with everything you said but my issue is everything you listed, except for the wall, can be loop holed or done away with or simply not enforced... At least the wall is something that can not just be done away with on a whim...
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:35 am to
You'll find that in the platform right next to their plan for a lunar colony.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:35 am to
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Democrats keep saying they're for border security but they never give examples.


Correct
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:36 am to
schumer said they passed a package last year and asked why it wouldn't be good enough for this year.

trump is talking about areas that don't have a wall where illegals, including criminals and terrorists, are crossing.

the dems claim to be ok with every measure of security other than a wall. once they eviscerate border security, there won't be anyone to make all those other options work (drones, etc) and there won't be a wall and they get what they want, illegals pouring across the border
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
5070 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:36 am to
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They want to arrest American business owners who dare employ the illegals they gladly let in.


Like Trump golf courses
Posted by shamrock
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
3626 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:36 am to
Seriously man, that all you got..mock Trump then run and hide..what are the Dems plans for border security?
Posted by Itismemc
LA
Member since Nov 2008
4723 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:40 am to
Let everyone in and there's noting to secure it from.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34912 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:41 am to
You have no need to secure a border if there is no border to secure



That's their plan
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73550 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:42 am to
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What is the democrats' plan to secure the votes?


FIFY
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68241 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:47 am to
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plan to secure the border?


I think I saw it in the bookstore next to 'My plan to find the real killer' by O.J. Simpson.
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
11927 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:57 am to
The plan is to open the boarder for all. No boarder means no need for boarder security.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46358 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:02 am to
The best I can tell this is the Dim plan,

Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29997 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:04 am to
Make America so shitty nobody wants to come here. Problem resolved.

Oh, and...Orange Man Bad! Reeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21967 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:05 am to
Catch and release while granting asylum to any who ask for it.

Their long term plan is to grant citizenship to everyone
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
4495 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:19 am to
They have no plan to secure the border. They want those borders kept open to guarantee an unimpeded flow of so-called refugees and illegals. More immigrants mean more democrat voters. It's all about gaining and 'securing' power, followed by the implementation of their socialist agenda. That includes wealth redistribution via huge confiscatory taxes. You know socialist Venuzuela on steroids. Give them power and they will confiscate all privately held IRA, 401k, and Savings Accounts. Book it.

Right now the only thing that stands in their way is Donald Trump and his army of us deplorables. I figure Pelosi and Schumer will throw down the gaunlet and come after Trump.

This post was edited on 12/12/18 at 9:21 am
Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
6839 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:20 am to
They have a plan for the Swiss cheese approach.
Posted by Chemcorp158
Sadly not the Rocky Mountains
Member since Oct 2017
203 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:40 am to
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can be loop holed or done away with or simply not enforced.


This is the problem. The laws that are on the books are not being enforced. We need the wall, but we also need to end sanctuary cities and the attitude that if you are here, legal or not, we now need to provide for your well being. The wall by itself will barely slow down the flood of illegals, but add an end to the free ride loopholes and decriminalization via lack of enforcement and it will nearly stop.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23836 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:47 am to
Considering that our present border security operation catches about 40,000 people per month attempting to enter without entry authority, it seems like the present apparatus is doing a good job.

But it is undeniable that other undocumented workers are smuggled into this country to work at factories and food processing plants and sugar mills and in agriculture and construction. The smuggling seems to be very sophisticated and is on a scale larger than people backpacking across the mountains.

For this operation, which is clearly driven by American employers of undocumented labor, the effort should be focused on the American employers. Put two or three chicken plant owners in jail and we will see the funding for smugglers tighten up considerably.
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