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re: What Is Society’s Responsibility When the Foster System Fails?
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:42 am to 4cubbies
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:42 am to 4cubbies
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No one can be shamed into being a decent parent, though.
Can't face the consequences when they are a shitty one either. Why have the government save each individual? That's not the responsibility of government. That is the responsibility of our "fellow man".
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:42 am to SallysHuman
I didn't raise this person. I don't know anything about his high school experience. I don't know what happened to the baby. I wasn't there when he was injured or when he passed away.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:42 am to 4cubbies
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:43 am to 4cubbies
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Why do you think this is any of your business? You're asking in an attempt to attack me.
You keep pointing to this as a societal problem, so I’m just curious what exactly you are personally doing about it? Or are you more of the “someone should really do something” type… as long as that someone isn’t you?
As a member of society who is concerned about the issues in foster care, wouldn’t the first step be, you know, fostering? Or is your role limited to delegating responsibility from the safety of the sidelines?
I’m only asking because it’s fascinating how loudly some people call for change so long as it doesn’t require them to lift a finger or get their hands dirty.
I’m asking because if you really wanted to help, you'd be putting your money where your mouth is. But judging by how quickly you retreated into “that’s personal,” it’s pretty clear you’re not doing anything.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:44 am to 4cubbies
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homeless 18 year old
Virtually all homeless people fall under two categories:
1. Drug abuse or mental illness
2. Drifters who choose that life.
Economic homeless are very rare. There are so many homeless resources that a person who is homeless without drug or mental problems is at the top of the list.
So did your guy have drug or mental problems?
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:45 am to j1897
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Did you even read the OP? What the frick you do with this kid now?
The thread has evolved.
Crackbaby needs to be permanently removed from newly sterilized crackmom and given to a good home.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:46 am to 4cubbies
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No one can be shamed into being a decent parent, though.
Agreed. At best you might get some slight marginal increase in a sense of personal responsibility enforced by the fear of public shame.
Which then brings us back to the more workable option being raised through the military. To the best of my knowledge there has never been such a program in any country, the closest thing being the agoge system in ancient Sparta which mandated all males starting at age 7 be raised in state-run military training programs to become soldiers.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:47 am to SallysHuman
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Crackbaby needs to be permanently removed from newly sterilized crackmom and given to a good home.
Where are these fairy tale homes? They don't exist dude. Foster care is an under-funded shithole that just keeps the cycle going.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:47 am to 4cubbies
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If you want to pretend like you have no idea how a homeless teenager would ever consider robbing anyone, you have my blessing.
Why didn't he join the military or something?
If he was hungry, why didn't he go to a food bank/shelter?
Why isn't he filling out paperwork for welfare?
Why isn't he working a manual labor job? There are a ton out there.
You act like robbing someone was his only and last resort.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:48 am to 4cubbies
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Not long after, he was arrested for armed robbery... He said he felt like he had no options, which I can understand.
Wait... so somebody commits armed robbery... feels they had no other options... and you can understand them committing armed robbery?
If you can understand someone committing armed robbery, then everything else you post is irrelevant. Your thinking is flawed. Deeply.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:49 am to 4cubbies
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Not long after, he was arrested for armed robbery. That was obviously a terrible decision. He said he felt like he had no options, which I can understand.
Your mind is broken. You can “understand” someone committing armed robbery because they need money. What sort of sicko thinks like this? What about the victim of his crime?
If I was dead broke, I’d get a job mowing grass before I jumped to “armed robbery.” This indulgent attitude toward criminality is why our society is on the brink of collapse in the West. It’s not compassionate; it’s insanity.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:49 am to Bard
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Which then brings us back to the more workable option being raised through the military. To the best of my knowledge there has never been such a program in any country, the closest thing being the agoge system in ancient Sparta which mandated all males starting at age 7 be raised in state-run military training programs to become soldiers.
I like it. Military boarding schools already exist. Many of them have enrollment issues, or have closed over the years. The infrastructure is already there.
I would also be open to the establishment of hardcore residential trade schools where they are immersed in a trade for years, not just dabbling at a trade school.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:49 am to 4cubbies
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I didn't raise this person. I don't know anything about his high school experience. I don't know what happened to the baby. I wasn't there when he was injured or when he passed away.
You know the dude is in trouble for the dead baby... and the baby had a brain bleed... but you don't know how the baby got the brain bleed? Really?
Your OP seems to make it out like you do, in fact, know quite a bit about this man.
Let me refresh your memory
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I met a man who grew up in foster care. No stable family, no support, no real guidance. When he aged out of the system at 18, he was completely on his own. Not long after, he was arrested for armed robbery. That was obviously a terrible decision. He said he felt like he had no options, which I can understand.
Fast forward a few years. He has a baby with his girlfriend that he met at the shelter he stayed in after aging out of foster care. Then the girlfriend gets arrested. Now he's alone with a 4-month-old infant, with no one to help. No family, no mentors, no parenting classes, no safety net. Tragically, the baby died while in his care. He's now facing criminal charges again,
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:50 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Economic homeless are very rare.
Very.
I have posted before that I hire a ton of people in recovery from sober living facilities and have hired a ton of them over the past 20 years. Most of them will tell you they were homeless at some point and that every other homeless person they met were also on drugs. Homeless families due to economics does not really exist in today's America. There are too many resources for those who want help.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:51 am to 4cubbies
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Is this something people are born having? Or is it learned?
Stop being coy. Did you read my post? We are all born with the basic, standard knowledge of good and evil. You either sharpen, or dull that knowledge with every action you take. A wrong choice makes the next wrong choice more likely. The same is true in reverse. There is no escaping accountability- ultimately.
But that doesn’t stop well-intentioned (I’m being very charitable here) mental midgets (like yourself) from ignoring all logic and repeated experience in an effort to satisfy your wind-blown feelings at the expense of the contributing members of society.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:52 am to j1897
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Where are these fairy tale homes? They don't exist dude. Foster care is an under-funded shithole that just keeps the cycle going.
Used to be something that was taken care of locally through churches, ministries and nuclear families.
Then the state got involved.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:54 am to 4cubbies
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I didn't raise this person. I don't know anything about his high school experience. I don't know what happened to the baby. I wasn't there when he was injured or when he passed away.
that's because as in all your hypothetical situations you've made them up out of then air
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:54 am to 4cubbies
“What is Society’s Responsibility When the System Society Designed Inevitably Fails to Meet 100% of the Needs of 100% of Its Participants?”
Obviously, there’s a better mousetrap right around the corner.
Maybe we could design a system to take care of people who age out of foster care and give them parents to parent them through adulthood. We will just need 200,000 people who have nothing better to do and $40 bajillion dollars and 2,000 new social workers to run it.
Obviously, there’s a better mousetrap right around the corner.
Maybe we could design a system to take care of people who age out of foster care and give them parents to parent them through adulthood. We will just need 200,000 people who have nothing better to do and $40 bajillion dollars and 2,000 new social workers to run it.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:55 am to 4cubbies
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Yeah, it's pretty funny that a homeless 18 year old with no family or support would rob someone isn't it? Hilarious.
No. It’s funny that you excuse someone for being homeless and robbing someone.
You are a caricature of an emotional woman and an emotional liberal all in one…like a perfect storm.
You enable the behavior you think needs to be fixed. It’s your fault. Your solutions ensure that it will always exist in significant numbers. How do you live with yourself?
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:55 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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I like it. Military boarding schools already exist. Many of them have enrollment issues, or have closed over the years. The infrastructure is already there.
I would also be open to the establishment of hardcore residential trade schools where they are immersed in a trade for years, not just dabbling at a trade school.
They could do both, adding trade schools access as the kids get into Jr High range to see who has aptitude for what. High school would then add a focus for trades, continued military progression or college prep.
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