re: What is happening to the MAHA movement?

I guess they realize the importance of glyphosate in food production.

The artificial coloring? I don't know. I always figured they were probably bullshiting.

Boy who could've seen this coming!

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This administration is a clown show

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Always has been

Good series of posts. Every movement that moves from critique to governing eventually hits this moment - you have to show how you weigh competing risks, not just identify villains. The swings on glyphosate and food dyes is similar to this situation with mercury:

EPA to weaken rule limiting harmful mercury, air toxins from coal plants

If mercury is framed as a major public health concern (e.g., years of debate around thimerosal), then easing mercury limits on coal emissions seems like it would at least require a clear explanation of why that risk is acceptable. What’s the framework here? Cost-benefit? Exposure thresholds? Precautionary principle sometimes but not others?

Worth separating hazard from risk. glyphosate can cause harm under certain conditions, but that’s true of almost any biologically active chemical. The debate is about risk at real-world exposure levels (this same principle is relevant to the mercury in vaccines vs. emissions issue as well). Some groups classified it as “probably carcinogenic” while some regulators like EPA have generally concluded typical dietary exposure is low risk. That gap is why the issue stays contentious. If we’re going to worry about it, the conversation should probably focus on exposure levels and evidence, not just the fact that it kills plants because things you put in your body all the time without a thought (e.g. salt & caffeine) can also do that.

It’s 100% true

Glyphosate is applied to 3/4 of all US cropland. Nearly 300 MM acres.

What objective metric do you need?

Go drink it and put it on your food like salt if you think those are analogous

Pointing to specific pathways is good - much more informative than just saying “it’s poison”. The profit angle is also real in agriculture, but it cuts both ways - yield, food prices, farmer economics, and environmental tradeoffs all get mixed in. That’s why people end up arguing about evidence rather than motives. What were you hoping MAHA was going to do with glyphosate?

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President Trump’s Executive Order about Glyphosate had me thinking there has to be more to this… and to my surprise, of course there was, and it honestly does make me feel a little better.

?? Did you know…
The majority of our crops are compromised? Many common crops have been genetically modified specifically to tolerate Roundup (or more precisely, its active ingredient glyphosate).

?? Did you know…
The majority of glyphosate (the active ingredient in herbicides like Roundup) is produced in China? China has been the world's largest producer of glyphosate producing 600,000–830,000 tons annually for many years.

?? Did you know…
In President Trump’s Executive order, he invoked the Defense Production Act, aimed at boosting and securing DOMESTIC (U.S.-based) production of glyphosate?

So what does that tell you?

China has been in a long silent war with America for a very long time, slowly killing off the U.S. population via many hidden means.

I’m no expert on glyphosate, but I feel like I can safely assume maybe China has done something to the glyphosate they manufacture or maybe it can be manufactured better to lessen the risks. I don’t know, but Honestly, I do feel A LOT better knowing it would at least be manufactured here in the US.

In addition to this, RFK JR recently as HHS secretary openly and honestly discussed Glyphosate with FULL TRANSPARENCY. He told us the truth about it, how dangerous it is, and how we are sadly reliant on it — but more importantly says they are optimistic that laser technology can replace it. (Clip here rumble.com/v75obeu-glyphosat…)

Overall, I realize the concerns, but I want everyone not to always jump to the worse possible conclusions. I really do think RFK JR and Trump are trying to make the best of a lot of already “legally” established shitty situations. I’m gonna wait and see how this turns out.

What do you think?