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re: What is happening to the MAHA movement?

Posted on 2/21/26 at 3:34 pm to
Posted by Tigertown
Mandeville
Member since Aug 2004
488 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 3:34 pm to
It seems his policies and executive orders are confusing until you look at his entire history of business dealings.
He is savvy enough to say what his base wants to hear to get into office. He pushes some boundaries with advice from his cabinet, lawyers and elite friends.
He likely does have strong opinions on the government, but doing anything about it only works if it enriches him, his family or wealthy friends who he networks with.
He will change his opinion quickly if he feels any of that is threatened
Posted by Kingshakabooboo
Member since Nov 2012
1890 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 3:53 pm to
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If roundup was eliminated it would put 80% of the farmers out of business.


I can understand using a gradual phasing out approach if this statistic is true. However I simply see no reason to walk back on the banning of artificial dyes in our food. I am very disappointed in this. My grandson has severe ADHD and in effort to not have to medicate him, my daughter had gone to extensive measures to monitor what he eats with a heavy focus on dye free foods. It is amazing what difference it had made in his behavior.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24360 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 3:57 pm to
I did not vote for this. Trump is being weak
Posted by Sizzle_DAWG
Sanford Stadium
Member since Jan 2024
2232 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 5:06 pm to
Trump has only deported north of half a million illegals since taking office. No border wall. Meddling in the Middle East, economy still garbage.

Yup! Things are going great!
Posted by BigEasy92
Member since Oct 2025
482 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 5:07 pm to
You saying there isnt an alternative solution? They just have to use it from here on out? I find that hard to believe. Sounds lazy.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11345 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

It seems his policies and executive orders are confusing until you look at his entire history of business dealings.
He is savvy enough to say what his base wants to hear to get into office. He pushes some boundaries with advice from his cabinet, lawyers and elite friends.
He likely does have strong opinions on the government, but doing anything about it only works if it enriches him, his family or wealthy friends who he networks with.
He will change his opinion quickly if he feels any of that is threatened


Trump could have made money with less risk by being a donor to whatever suit is in office. He wouldn't have been prosecuted or shot. That would have been a savvy move.

Trump also lost a billion dollars his first term. Was that part of his master strategy? I bet it was. That's the 4D chess he's famous for.
Posted by Sisyphus
Member since Feb 2014
2000 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 6:52 pm to
For those against glyphosate, I'd like to hear your concerns about it specifically. Not farming practices or other concerns, I want to hear your concerns about the chemical itself.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39847 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 7:22 pm to
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What is happening to the MAHA movement?
I can't speak to the direct Trump aspects, but RFK, Makary and Batacharya have all no doubt discovered what a calcified, labyrinthine and rotten bureaucracy they are dealing with that is actively at odds with even their most consensus aims.

Go listen to Brigham Buehler when he was on Rogan. He was able to basically have a mole that was reporting how everything was being intentionally fricked by lifers inside FDA.

Even so, Prasad just told Moderna to go frick themselves on the flu MRNA for old folks.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182205 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 7:29 pm to
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I can't speak to the direct Trump aspects, but RFK, Makary and Batacharya have all no doubt discovered what a calcified, labyrinthine and rotten bureaucracy they are dealing with that is actively at odds with even their most consensus aims.



No doubt.

The reversal on the dye ban is them trying to actually get things accomplished


quote:

They are trying to encourage industry cooperation without a full ban:

A straight ban on dyes would require stronger legal backing and likely a long rule-making process.

Instead, the FDA gave companies more flexibility with labels to incentivize them to switch to natural color sources.

They want to make it easier for companies to reformulate products:

Because the old policy made it hard for companies to say “no artificial colors” even if they already replaced synthetic dyes with natural ones, the label change removes that barrier.

Critics say it’s partly a concession to food industry pressure:

Some food manufacturers resisted strict bans, saying removing these dyes is expensive, technically hard, or not clearly justified by science.

By relaxing label rules rather than banning dyes outright, critics argue the FDA has backed off from its earlier tougher stance.

It avoids a public rule-making process for now:

The FDA made this change through a letter and enforcement discretion, not through a full public regulatory change. That’s faster but less transparent, and many consumer groups think that’s why the policy looks weaker than earlier promises.

Instead of banning artificial colors or requiring full transparency about food dyes, the FDA said: “You can say ‘no artificial colors’ on your package if you avoid old petroleum-based dyes even if you still use other kinds of color additives.”





Some of the natural additives are worse than the synthetic ones.

Some of the reasons for backing off is to avoid legal fights and prolonging any changes vs getting companies to cooperate faster, thus avoiding legal challenges. It's an incentive-based agreement.

Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39847 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 7:32 pm to
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Some of the natural additives are worse than the synthetic ones.

Some of the reasons for backing off is to avoid legal fights and prolonging any changes vs getting companies to cooperate faster, thus avoiding legal challenges. It's an incentive-based agreement.

Of all the areas it's dumb to be pissed when - only 13 months in - people haven't gotten the results they might have wanted, anything having to do with FDA/NIH/CDC is the dumbest. I think it's possible you couldn't have meaningful change even with dictatorial control for a generation. It's the very definition of deep state.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23284 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 7:34 pm to
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If roundup was eliminated it would put 80% of the farmers out of business.

Glyphosate is massively overused in the United States with regard to farming.

There’s a middle ground between banning it and allowing it to be used in an unrestricted way.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6882 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 7:46 pm to
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Trump could have made money with less risk by being a donor to whatever suit is in office.

He loves money, but he needs power. Being the president gives him that power and that is the ultimate high for a narcissist like him.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15671 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 9:05 pm to
Trial Lawyers have been dreaming of giant payouts and putting out propaganda on social media for at least 15 years about RoundUp and Monsanto
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15671 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 9:06 pm to
I guess we need to import more tallow from shithole nations.
Posted by Chef Curry
Member since Mar 2019
3101 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 9:54 am to
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For those against glyphosate, I'd like to hear your concerns about it specifically. Not farming practices or other concerns, I want to hear your concerns about the chemical itself.


It’s pretty simple, glyphosate is a known carcinogen. What do you think happens to your body after consuming it on a daily basis? Same as other dyes and additives poisoning the US food supply that are banned in Europe and other developed regions.

Colon cancer is on a significant rise for younger adults and it is 100% due to the shite in our food.
Posted by Sisyphus
Member since Feb 2014
2000 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 5:07 pm to
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It’s pretty simple, glyphosate is a known carcinogen


Except it isn't.

It blocks the shikimate pathway, a metabolic process plants have but humans don’t.

It’s been used for decades, and large reviews in multiple countries have generally found it unlikely to cause cancer at normal exposure levels. The EPA, Health Canada, and the EU all did studies and found it to be fine.

All of the fear mongering came from one statement from the WHO years ago.
Posted by Tigertown
Mandeville
Member since Aug 2004
488 posts
Posted on 2/23/26 at 12:13 am to
I doubt any candidates run for President thinking they will be shot.
I also think all but 1 of his trials should not have gone to court. However, he served no jail time and got off relatively unscathed.
As someone commented earlier, he wants money but needs power.
This was his best bet for both.
Lastly, you know damn well he doesn't understand anything about chess.
Much less 4D chess
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97947 posts
Posted on 2/23/26 at 12:16 am to
Yes we fricked up not voting in your girl
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
17700 posts
Posted on 2/23/26 at 12:26 am to
This thread is red meat for the commie fricktards.



Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
1814 posts
Posted on 2/23/26 at 1:48 am to
quote:

Trump is a democrat at this point


For sure.

Trump continues to be and always has been center left on the political spectrum.
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