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Posted on 7/8/17 at 6:49 pm to ChexMix
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Whats really going to blow your mind is that if Trump ran as a Democrat, he would have won Florida, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan and North Carolina in addition to every Liberal leaning state in the country.
That's true.
LOL. He'd have made Obama's victories seems half assed.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 6:50 pm to Eurocat
quote:Then you have come to the conclusion he is an excellent presidential candidate. Are you finally accepting him as your president?
Why do you think it would blow my mind? I have long thought the same thing.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 6:50 pm to Eurocat
quote:
Why do you think it would blow my mind? I have long thought the same thing.
Since you clearly agree that Trump isn't exactly a radical right winger, what do you think it says about his liberal opponents that they seem oblivious to this reality?
Posted on 7/8/17 at 6:51 pm to Champagne
He's a 1960s democrat.
But back in the 60s democRats had some rationality and they did put America first.
But back in the 60s democRats had some rationality and they did put America first.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 6:51 pm to Eurocat
I have no problem with true democrats, its you pussy liberals/progressives/socialist that are the problem...
Posted on 7/8/17 at 6:53 pm to ChexMix
quote:If you'd have told Democrats in the year 2000 that THEIR candidate would be the one making fun of the idea of pushing to rebuild the manufacturing base and the other guy would be the one selling it...........they'd have laughed at you like you'd suggested Bill Clinton was a Lizard Alien.
Then you have come to the conclusion he is an excellent presidential candidate. Are you finally accepting him as your president?
Posted on 7/8/17 at 6:55 pm to Eurocat
what if superman had grown up in germany instead of america ? crazy?
let's take a look.....
fascinating
let's take a look.....
fascinating
Posted on 7/8/17 at 6:55 pm to Eurocat
It's an interesting question. The speculation was always if he would run as a Republican or a third party candidate. The main reason for that is his appeal was based largely around immigration and America first, two issues that are kryptonite to Dems. If it was thirty years ago maybe. He could have just as easily run third party and ensured Democratic victory.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 7:01 pm to Lsupimp
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The speculation was always if he would run as a Republican or a third party candidate. The main reason for that is his appeal was based largely around immigration and America first, two issues that are kryptonite to Dems
What's your definition of "Always" here? I ask because under Clinton, the Democrats were giving speeches on the floor of the House and Senate that sounded like retroactive plagiarism of Trump's 2016 speeches.
quote:LOL.
If it was thirty years ago maybe
I should read the whole post.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 7:02 pm to VOLhalla
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the large field of GOP candidates definitely helped Trump win - he was one of the few candidates that stood out in anyway with the rest splitting votes. He was able to win or place highly in early primaries with relatively small numbers of votes.
The GOP candidates obsession with "winning their lanes" was flat out retarded and destined for failure when one candidate was sucking up all the oxygen and air time in the room. By the time it got down to 3-5 candidates, it was too late and there was no stopping Trump at all as inertia had already set in and there was nothing Rubio and Cruz could do.
The GOP failing to stop Trump winning the nomination is a great example of a collective action problem. Fortunately, the DNC saved them by nominating the worst candidate of all time in Hillary Clinton and the rest is history.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 7:02 pm to VOLhalla
quote:Yeah, people don't decide who gets the Democrat Party nomination, the DNC does.
The DNC nomination process
Only way Trump gets the Democrat nomination is if the DNC wants Trump to get the nomination. The people don't have a say.
Remember, even almighty Hillary was screwed out of delegate votes that would have put her in front of Obama because the DNC decided it wanted Obama to get the nomination.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 7:02 pm to ChexMix
I have always accepted him as my President. Doesn't mean I cannot knock him if he makes a mistake just like I would any other President.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 7:04 pm to TrueTiger
quote:
He's a 1960s democrat.
Very early 60s democrat if you want to go there. LBJ did basically sign into law modern american with all his nanny state bullshite.
If anything, Trump is a 50s or 40s democrat.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 7:05 pm to Sentrius
quote:
The GOP failing to stop Trump winning the nomination is a great example of a collective action problem.
Like watching Game Theory in action.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 7:08 pm to ShortyRob
I don't think they are oblivious to any reality.
They simply don't want taxes slashed on the wealthy and many people to lose health care.
If the darned coot would simply have more self discipline, stop tweeting at 2am and read up on the issues he could be a great President. He is his own biggest enemy.
It's six months in and he still hasn't hired the very important people he needs to surround himself with.
He is killing his own Presidency because he is so helter-skelter.
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They simply don't want taxes slashed on the wealthy and many people to lose health care.
If the darned coot would simply have more self discipline, stop tweeting at 2am and read up on the issues he could be a great President. He is his own biggest enemy.
It's six months in and he still hasn't hired the very important people he needs to surround himself with.
He is killing his own Presidency because he is so helter-skelter.
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Posted on 7/8/17 at 7:10 pm to ShortyRob
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Like watching Game Theory in action.
Speaking of which.
As a person who has long been fascinated with Game Theory, it seemed readily apparent to me that Trump was absolutely aware he was involved in such a situation and manipulated his opponents into opting for strategies that benefited him.
Think about it.
The reality is, Trump probably loses in a 3 man race if the 3 man race occurred early. So. What does he do? He literally infuriates opponents into staying IN the race for as long as possible.
I don't think that shite was an accident at all.
This post was edited on 7/8/17 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 7/8/17 at 7:13 pm to Eurocat
quote:Oh come on.
I don't think they are oblivious to any reality.
quote:Reagan. Bush. Every other Republican alive would have had such an approach.
They simply don't want taxes slashed on the wealthy and many people to lose health care.
quote:This also doesn't explain the reaction.
If the darned coot would simply have more self discipline, stop tweeting at 2am and read up on the issues he could be a great President. He is his own biggest enemy.
They don't disagree with him. They SINCERELY believe they are opposing Hitler.
I mean, come on. Surely you can acknowledge that.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 7:16 pm to Eurocat
There's a reason trump ran on the republican ticket.But it would offend too many people here to explain why.
He made the only choice he had to have a chance.
I still have a hard time believing he really wanted to win though.I just figured it was a publicity stunt for him to ride to another tv show...go figure..
He made the only choice he had to have a chance.
I still have a hard time believing he really wanted to win though.I just figured it was a publicity stunt for him to ride to another tv show...go figure..
Posted on 7/8/17 at 7:22 pm to Pecker
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What if we just gave Eastern Europe to Putin....
What if...
I like eastern Europe. Make it western Europe and I am on board.
It would be interesting to see them in a NATO like club with him so we could see what happens when they try to mooch their defense off him. He might not take them.
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