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What If Presidential Hopeful Andrew Yang Is Right?
Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:43 am
Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:43 am
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McKinsey predicts that by 2030, jobs like dishwashers, equipment operators, food-preparation workers, general mechanics and truck drivers in America will witness a 31% decrease in employment due to automation. That’s a lot of people put on the streets should there be no retraining programs made available.
The Freedom Dividend is a potentially positive step in the direction of helping those displaced by the coming wave of automation. Expensive? Yes, of course. It’s in the neighborhood of $3 trillion per year. Yang has a plan to fund it, in part, through a value-added tax (VAT). Naturally, there are naysayers.
But there may not be an alternative for the US. For example, there are approximately 5 million professional drivers in the US be it driving trucks, taxis or others of its ilk. What happens when a fraction of those drivers are dislodged by an autonomous driving robot overlord? What happens when there is no skills replacement program?
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There are other components to Yang’s platform that deserve some attention. He wants to revive the Office of Technology Assessment (OTA), an organization first commissioned by President Nixon but sunset in 1995. OTA acted as an early warning system against the undesirable side effects of developing technologies. It sure could have come in handy over the advent of Facebook and its kind.
Yang also believes data ought to be a property right. His articulation suggests the following: “Data generated by each individual needs to be owned by them, with certain rights conveyed that will allow them to know how it’s used and protect it.” It’s hard to disagree that our data should be in our possession, specifically as a right.
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Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:44 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
Andrew, quit posting.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:45 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
No, it’s a tax. And we all see how properly people spend money they didn’t earn.
What we need is less restrictions, it’s more. You want these menial jobs NOT to be automated? Eliminate the minimum wage. Make it so it’s cheaper to hire people than robots.
Also get high school away from college prep for most kids and make it the jobs training program.
What we need is less restrictions, it’s more. You want these menial jobs NOT to be automated? Eliminate the minimum wage. Make it so it’s cheaper to hire people than robots.
Also get high school away from college prep for most kids and make it the jobs training program.
This post was edited on 5/23/19 at 6:47 am
Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:47 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
What does Marco Rubio think about it?
Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:47 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
Republicans say basically let those people all starve
Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:48 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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OTA acted as an early warning system against the undesirable side effects of developing technologies.
Freedom police
Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:48 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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That’s a lot of people put on the streets should there be no retraining programs made available.
What, these people can’t go find another job or learn themselves a new skill in their own, a retraining program has to be made available to them, at my cost, I’m assuming?
Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:49 am to Oilfieldbiology
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And we all see how properly people spend money they didn’t earn.
The data doesn’t show this. In many of the studies where cash is given to the poor, there has been no increase in drug and alcohol use. In fact, many people use it to try and reduce their alcohol consumption or substance abuse. In Alaska, for example, people regularly put the petroleum dividend they receive from the state in accounts for their children’s education. The idea that poor people will be irresponsible with their money and squander it seems to be a biased stereotype rather than a truth.
Decision-making has been shown to improve when people have greater economic security. Giving people resources will enable them to make better decisions to improve their situation. As Dutch philosopher Rutger Bregman puts it, “Poverty is not a lack of character. It’s a lack of cash.”
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Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:49 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
Cotton gin
Mechanical Reaper
Etc
Etc
Etc
New jobs will replace the old ones.
Mechanical Reaper
Etc
Etc
Etc
New jobs will replace the old ones.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:50 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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McKinsey predicts that by 2030
Will be too old by then to care.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:50 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Republicans say basically let those people all starve
Republicans say basically don't throw trillions of dollars at every scare money/power grab scam the leftists dream up.
fixed it for you
ll fricking years, I am noticing a trend
and we are only 6.5 years until ALL big rigs on the orad are self-driving! (I have been keeping track since it was 10)
Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:51 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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What If Presidential Hopeful Andrew Yang Is Right?
Translation: No one is buying Yang's bullshite so it's time to try fear tactics.
This post was edited on 5/23/19 at 6:52 am
Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:52 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
quote:then a bunch of people should learn to code...
What If Presidential Hopeful Andrew Yang Is Right?
Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:53 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
Where does the money come from?
ETA - lulz at Alaskans don’t spend their dividend check on alcohol.
ETA - lulz at Alaskans don’t spend their dividend check on alcohol.
This post was edited on 5/23/19 at 6:55 am
Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:53 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Republicans say basically let those people all starve
No. Conservatives say take care of your own shite and don't over burden the populace with legislation and taxes that hender people from taking care of their own shite.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:54 am to gthog61
“Ignore the problem and hope it goes away”
Very responsible of you. This is why I can’t take conservatives seriously, it’s not that I think liberal solutions are necessary the best solutions, but when the alternative is to pretend a problem doesn’t exist you’re not giving me much choice, are you?
Very responsible of you. This is why I can’t take conservatives seriously, it’s not that I think liberal solutions are necessary the best solutions, but when the alternative is to pretend a problem doesn’t exist you’re not giving me much choice, are you?
Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:54 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
The best natural experiment that exists are Native Americans and casinos. You should look up how well that’s worked out.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:54 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Republicans say basically let those people all starve
Democrats say they will give you free stuff for your vote.
This post was edited on 5/23/19 at 6:57 am
Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:54 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
So take from producers and give to non-producers. No thanks. Just like every revolution or evolution in the work place people need to adapt. While dishwashers May go away some other low skilled jobs will be created. People who WANT to work will always find a way.
They have to WANT to. Even the early church went away from socialism because people who could work refused to do so. Human nature being what it is some group or type of people will always try to be unproductive that has to be uncomfortable or else they won’t change.
They have to WANT to. Even the early church went away from socialism because people who could work refused to do so. Human nature being what it is some group or type of people will always try to be unproductive that has to be uncomfortable or else they won’t change.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:55 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
He is right about the inevitabiliy of it.. and its the right time for a discussion and to begin planning. A bit too soon to act imo.
Thomas Paine, 1796: Out of a collected fund from landowners, “there shall be paid to every person, when arrived at the age of twenty-one years, the sum of fifteen pounds sterling, as a compensation in part, for the loss of his or her natural inheritance,. . . to every person, rich or poor.
Thomas Paine, 1796: Out of a collected fund from landowners, “there shall be paid to every person, when arrived at the age of twenty-one years, the sum of fifteen pounds sterling, as a compensation in part, for the loss of his or her natural inheritance,. . . to every person, rich or poor.
This post was edited on 5/23/19 at 7:28 am
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