re: What have we gained? RE: Iran War

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You should maybe go to Iran take a little vacation there then come back and report on what you found. Or maybe you could visit with one or two of the family members of the over 40,000 Iranian citizen they just murdered in the streets because all they wanted was a fair chance at life. Oh! yea that's right you already have that here in the US.

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So if we end the war with the current regime still in place, would you consider the war a success?

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So if we end the war with the current regime still in place, would you consider the war a success?

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The premise was to stop them from making a weapon of mass destruction. Seems like it’s definitely been done. What do you think the goal is/was?

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Your post is dead on, except for this. Lot’s of people complained. Joe Kennedy, for example. Roosevelt could not support the UK like he wanted to because of public opposition to getting involved. When the Japanese hit Pearl Harbor, though, the opposition shut up.

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Problem today is that we are so divided as a country, that the opposition would still complain if it meant anything positive for Trump. I truly believe that there is nothing that could bring this country together again. Sad to say.

So there has been success, correct?

One thing I like is that most Iranians loved what we did and have no problem with what is happening. Can’t say that I’ve seen one negative thing from the citizens of Iran making it unpopular. It’s Americans who are crying and complaining.

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So there has been success, correct?

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By what metric?

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One thing I like is that most Iranians loved what we did and have no problem with what is happening. Can’t say that I’ve seen one negative thing from the citizens of Iran making it unpopular. It’s Americans who are crying and complaining.

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Do you have a lot of insight into Iranian public opinion?

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The premise was to stop them from making a weapon of mass destruction

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Well yeah, he was responding to this

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You should maybe go to Iran take a little vacation there then come back and report on what you found. Or maybe you could visit with one or two of the family members of the over 40,000 Iranian citizen they just murdered in the streets because all they wanted was a fair chance at life. Oh! yea that's right you already have that here in the US.

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Where in that quote are WMDs mentioned or referenced?

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Seems like it’s definitely been done.

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Only slightly delayed, at best.

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What do you think the goal is/was?

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The admin floated like 10 goals and never fully committed to one. This is what Trump does, so that regardless of what happens, whatever we end up was the REAL goal and the rest were just negotiation ploys. I call this dishonest rhetoric Art of the Deal for short.

We last saw it in a big way with tariffs.

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ohh i was soo scared of them here in baton rouge, louisiana!

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No way Baton Rouge could ever get destroyed by a nuke if it hits the U.S.

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someone please tell me why i should give two fricks about iran

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Understand how the world works and Iran's history.

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pay 3x the gas prices i have been

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3x the prices since when? When Biden was president?

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Understand how the world works and Iran's history.

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Tell us.

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3x the prices since when? When Biden was president?

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So this is your argument? “Trump … just like Biden”. Is that what you voted for?

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When do you anticipate it could be over?

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Who knows? It might be ending with a whimper even as we discuss this. Or it might flare up into a ground war. Maybe there will be a coup. There are just too many possibilities in a complex conflict about which none of us has enough information to be considered informed.

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Who is this “we” you speak of? Do you and I or your neighbor across the street have any true stake economically in the Middle East? Are you a military contractor or someone else in the very small group who stands to benefit financially from anything happening in the Middle East?

My guess is you’re not, but you and I sure as shite will be chipping in for the bill with our tax dollars, in addition to getting double taxed with the added inflation. Our government meddling over there has never resulted in anything good for the American people. Isn’t that who MAGA is supposed to be for?

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You saying that my words sounded like a script from Fox News, sounds like you're reading from a script off Reddit. It's the least original, most repeated "gotcha" from people who don't really care to examine the facts of an argument, but instead want to project their own lack of thought onto someone else by making the accusation that they're just spitting out a Fox narrative.

If America benefits economically, then that means me and my neighbor benefit. How do we benefit, you might wonder? Because that region of the world invests heavily in our markets, they possess a tremendous amount of reserve oil that we don't want being controlled by the wrong hands. All of these things affect prices here, and if we allow terrorists to overrun the region, then they and their allies control the global market.

The problem that so many of you have, is you fell for this false idea that putting America first meant that we could just ignore everything else, and all our problems would just magically melt away. That isn't "MAGA". That's a false ideal of MAGA. We got to this point because of previous administrations selling us out to foreign countries. That puts Trump in a position of having to gain back leverage over those countries. And that is a long game, not an overnight fix.

And I don't know that we'll achieve complete success, because people like yourself might just get in the way and halt all progress for the sake of some perceived inflation relief, once Trump leaves office.

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This is such an apples to oranges comparison. Is Iran invading and occupying most of Europe? For 30 years Netanyahu has been on script saying they’re “weeks away” from developing a nuke and using it on us.

Either weeks last decades in Iran or he’s been lying, trying to goad us into taking out HIS country’s greatest threat.

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Iran, and it's proxies, have run the vast majority of the middle east for decades. Iran is the head of the snake. And what Netanyahu said is correct. But he hasn't been saying it for weeks. It said weeks ago where they stood, and we have clearly set them way back. So what lie is it that you think is being told?

Now, if many of you had it your way, we'd just call it a day right here. But if that regime is not eliminated entirely, this problem will continue to arise on future generations, and we can't count on having leaders by then who will do anything about it.

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Ok boomer. You really schooled us in geopolitics today. Keep gobbling down the same narrative fed to us during the Iraq war like your pre afternoon nap jello.

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Another classic. Comparing every war to Iraq, reflexively, with no context to back it up. And also calling someone a "boomer" who isn't anywhere close to a boomer, because that's what your peers taught you to say to everyone you disagree with. Thanks for this altogether original response. It was enlightening.