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re: What does middle America school teachers and administration think of deleting Dept of Ed
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:43 pm to Trevaylin
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:43 pm to Trevaylin
Wife works child nutrition.
Department of Education [Michelle's meals] meant every school system she worked in which was public (or private relying on DOE funds) has strict food guidelines [in Alabama at least]. Meals that are bland, no salt or other condiments on the table, etc.
There are 2 or 3 systems in Alabama which do NOT rely on federal funds. They do what the want and it is impressive. My wife works in one - a top school system and it is impressive. They run it like a business, always looking for variety for students, teachers, staff and administrators. Although there are dietitians [including the supervisor of all schools], they serve a half dozen different kinds of chicken [including an agreement for Chick-fil-A].
Their food is as good as Nick's West here in Birmingham and I recognize this is could be viewed as a heretical statement in this city. Regardless, the students are happy and the parents are as well.
What is amazing - the cost is not much greater because of the 'contracts' forced upon schools receiving federal funds. These independent schools are allowed to shop on the open market.
Final point - almost all of the schools in this area are forced to provide hundreds of 'free' meals, including breakfast to a sizeable [and questionable] group of students. The wifes' serve no free meals, unless a student's account balance has accidently dropped to zero.
Remember Kamala, arresting parents who's children were absent. In Kamala's mind it was all about the bodies in school, getting the DOE reimbursement.
I'm certain most states will keep in place federal guidelines for the immediate future, but they will all change eventually. Competition between school systems will increase [like schools who import athletes] but in the end, it will be a good thing.
TL;DR - eventually, the tight noose around school systems will be loosened and schools systems, competing with each other, will result in better choices for parents.
Department of Education [Michelle's meals] meant every school system she worked in which was public (or private relying on DOE funds) has strict food guidelines [in Alabama at least]. Meals that are bland, no salt or other condiments on the table, etc.
There are 2 or 3 systems in Alabama which do NOT rely on federal funds. They do what the want and it is impressive. My wife works in one - a top school system and it is impressive. They run it like a business, always looking for variety for students, teachers, staff and administrators. Although there are dietitians [including the supervisor of all schools], they serve a half dozen different kinds of chicken [including an agreement for Chick-fil-A].
Their food is as good as Nick's West here in Birmingham and I recognize this is could be viewed as a heretical statement in this city. Regardless, the students are happy and the parents are as well.
What is amazing - the cost is not much greater because of the 'contracts' forced upon schools receiving federal funds. These independent schools are allowed to shop on the open market.
Final point - almost all of the schools in this area are forced to provide hundreds of 'free' meals, including breakfast to a sizeable [and questionable] group of students. The wifes' serve no free meals, unless a student's account balance has accidently dropped to zero.
Remember Kamala, arresting parents who's children were absent. In Kamala's mind it was all about the bodies in school, getting the DOE reimbursement.
I'm certain most states will keep in place federal guidelines for the immediate future, but they will all change eventually. Competition between school systems will increase [like schools who import athletes] but in the end, it will be a good thing.
TL;DR - eventually, the tight noose around school systems will be loosened and schools systems, competing with each other, will result in better choices for parents.
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:44 pm to Gee Grenouille
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The communities that want good schools will elect good board members and they’ll have good schools. The ones that don’t will have shitty schools
100% agree
The public schools in the state that are decent got that way in spite of Fed and state directives. Not as a result of it.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:47 pm to Olric
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I'm not sure I've met a teacher dialed in enough to know how DOE effects their day to day and i'm married to one
From the teachers I know, the main concern seems to be around Special Education. Federal funding played a major role in special education and there seems to be fear that the individual states will struggle to fund this area. Obviously that remains to be seen - but that seems to be the main fear of those in the classroom.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:55 pm to Trevaylin
I’m a teacher that is not apart of a union. I find the sky screaming hilarious. I don’t think it’s going to change much for most states. There may be a couple where some things change a bit but overall it’ll likely be business as usual as far as iep support and such that a lot of people are freaking out over goes. (Whether or not that’s a good thing is up for debate but still)
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:00 am to tigger4ever
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What percent funding comes from the federal government to the states?
The excuse I always hear from teachers is most of Special Education funding comes from the federal level. I have no idea if that’s true? My understanding is most funding at the state level.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:37 am to Trevaylin
I want to see teachers in Louisiana get raises. Not the administration or the Principals. Just the teachers. And fire the crazy leftist ones. Its fine if you are a Democrat as long as you don't have TDS or using your sexuality as an identity.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:55 am to Trevaylin
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Something has to be done to improve the failing reading/writing/arithmetic/science capabilities.
I agree...
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:37 am to Trevaylin
I am a teacher and I support the elimination of the DOE.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:47 am to Trevaylin
Knee bending bureaucratic fake food forcing union backed power grabbing socialist figs ..... how's that
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:48 am to Trevaylin
I’m married to a campus compliance coordinator in the western suburbs of Houston. Her job is to insure school compliance with federal regulations for special needs children. She has been telling me for years about the stupidity of some of the regulations which basically require classes full of normal students to be subjected to the disruptions caused by uncontrollable children and their entitled parents. It got so bad she retired after the last school year. She is ecstatic that it might be changing and has started talking about going back to work.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:00 am to Trevaylin
From what I’ve read it will probably fall on the spectrum of a teachers political leaning in if they like it or not. And yes there are many of us trump voters who are teachers who are ok with it. Remove the middle man. Move the special programs to where it needs to go. Give states more control.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:15 am to Trevaylin
I'm in favor of getting rid of it; my only concern is the kids w/ special needs (autism, etc). and the services they receive.
There's such a shortage of teachers right now because no young people are getting into the profession. Hopefully by giving the $ tot he states, salaries will increase and will attract new teachers.
There's such a shortage of teachers right now because no young people are getting into the profession. Hopefully by giving the $ tot he states, salaries will increase and will attract new teachers.
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 6:17 am
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:32 am to BamaCoaster
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The funding will still go to the states.
Yes. We aren’t ruining public education.
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The federal bureaucracy will be dead, however.
I think most teachers will eventually realize the benefit here. There are a lot of edicts that come from the DOE that are go-do metrics that will go away. Let the states decide how to administer that.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:36 am to Olric
I'm not sure I've met a teacher dialed in enough to know how DOE effects their day to day and i'm married to one
Then you haven't met many teachers. My wife is a retired teacher (still temps on occasion). And she hates being told from Washington what to teach. You know damn well they have been indoctrinating our kids with commie BS for decades. How many billions have we been spending to do just that? That's her opinion and that of many of her cohorts.
Then you haven't met many teachers. My wife is a retired teacher (still temps on occasion). And she hates being told from Washington what to teach. You know damn well they have been indoctrinating our kids with commie BS for decades. How many billions have we been spending to do just that? That's her opinion and that of many of her cohorts.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:50 am to Trevaylin
Most teachers are net tax takers
frick them and their opinion
frick them and their opinion
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 6:51 am
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:52 am to Trevaylin
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What does middle America school teachers and administration think of deleting Dept of Ed
quote:Indeed.
Something has to be done to improve the failing reading/writing/arithmetic/science capabilities.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:56 am to Trevaylin
Most teachers are governed by their school district.
Beyond that most probably don't give two fricks.
Beyond that most probably don't give two fricks.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:12 am to LSUbest
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Right now we have mostly people that want an easy job.
Certainly there are those who fit this description, but I can't imagine how spending day after day in a room of other people's children trying to teach them things that they don't want to know! Lol
I believe teachers should be held to the highest standard and required to have specialized training in different areas, and be well paid for it.
Teachers spend more time with our children than parents do....
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:30 am to bamalee
The amount of bullshite that teachers have to deal with now that is tied to federal funding from the DOE is driving teachers in droves out of the profession.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:37 am to Trevaylin
Both my parents were teachers.
All their dealings were with the county and the state. They wouldn't have felt or heard a damn thing.
All their dealings were with the county and the state. They wouldn't have felt or heard a damn thing.
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