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re: What does Jimmy Kimmel's Kids Heart Problem have to do with ObamaCare?

Posted on 5/2/17 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 12:14 pm to
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B/c I can't read your mind
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The funny part is that my positions on health care are very moderate and mainstream, but on the PoliBoard, they appear extreme.


We can't read your mind, either.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 12:16 pm to
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Point me to the section about children dying in the streets.


If you truly claim you want to learn more about it, as you say, then read the whole thing.

You'd do well to have a better understanding of the thing you seem certain didn't exist pre-ACA.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27995 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 12:21 pm to
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In the end he says kids wouldn't get this surgery if born without insurance.


The procedure performed was probably developed in the US. The life sustaining machines the child was hooked up to were developed in the US. The meds he will be on were developed in the US. The lifetime of treatments/testing were developed in the US.

All these great and wonderful socialized medicine countries don't do shite for the advancement of medicine.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Ray Bans for Max Polarization
Member since Sep 2003
140762 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 12:22 pm to
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And that has nothing to do with anything I've said in this thread. It is completely unrelated
So with an obamacare policy, a middleclass family in Kimmel's situation would likely have to pay upwards of $6000-$10000 for several years in a row on top of the cost of their already pricey obamacare policy.

Given that, I guess I'm missing your point here.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Ray Bans for Max Polarization
Member since Sep 2003
140762 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 12:23 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 12:25 pm
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 12:26 pm to
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If any bill passes, it won't be your decision whether your kid can do XYZ - it'll be a bureaucrat in DC making that decision about your child's life.

Fixed
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
18000 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 12:27 pm to
Touching speech but I really don't need a celebrity to make more sympathic to the plight of poor and sick people.

I usually just listen to their stories and hear them out. Shouldn't be hard to relate to others or give an open ear to those in neeed that don't have privilege or platforms
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 12:28 pm to
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If you truly claim you want to learn more about it, as you say, then read the whole thing.


Nah, I'd like you to point me to anything that supports the over-the-top emotional bullshite you regularly bring to these threads. You've never even attempted to support it, so I can only conclude that you're talking out of your arse, as usual.

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You'd do well to have a better understanding of the thing you seem certain didn't exist pre-ACA.


So far, I appear to have a better understanding of it than you, and that's sad. You do this for a living. I don't.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 12:30 pm to
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over-the-top emotional bullshite


Clear cases of recission happening pre-ACA, and you still refuse to believe it happened.



Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 12:30 pm to
I really doubt bamaatls claims of work in the medical field. Such a stark misunderstanding of statistics and study interpretation is troubling.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 12:32 pm to
What study would you like to discuss? What statistical argument are we making in this thread?

Go on...
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
159412 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 12:32 pm to
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O so you have no problem assuming that Kimmel meant, but now you want proof this is the best I can offer:


Yes. I think. But this sentence is a mess.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 12:33 pm to
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Clear cases of recission happening pre-ACA, and you still refuse to believe it happened.


No, I want specific instances of "children dying in the streets," "lives at stake," or any of the other bullshite claims you've made in these threads.

Link those, or admit it was purely emotional, and we can move on.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35406 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 12:34 pm to
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But this sentence is a mess.
I just reread it and can hardly understand what I meant either.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 12:36 pm to
It was in reference to your threads in the past citing misleading studies and faulty numbers.

Just search your own thread history.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 12:37 pm to
She loves her some cherry-picked charts, doesn't she?
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
159412 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 12:37 pm to
OK, OK. You aren't the caring giving soul I thought you to be. Got it.

Anyway, I'm not sure asking the responsible to pay for the irresponsible is very moderate.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 12:37 pm to
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"lives at stake,"


see CBO score of AHCA costing >24M people their insurance, and related study about the cost in lives for removing insurance from people bringing excess deaths.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 12:38 pm to
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citing misleading studies and faulty numbers


They're not faulty because you don't agree with them on a policy level. If we can't agree that KFF is a legitimate source of information, then you're really living in a different world than the rest of us.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 12:40 pm to
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AHCA




When did I ever mention the AHCA? I get it. It's a piece of shite, so you're latching onto it, but I was vocally opposed to it.

Try again.
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