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re: What do you call a group of people that cross a nation's borders without permission

Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:55 am to
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43450 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:55 am to
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I've yet to see anyone adequately define what our culture actually consists of


Which version of the US? The 1776 version or todays? Either one you probably wont like the answer
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477115 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 9:58 am to
Well the irony is that our national monoculture developed as illegal immigration exploded

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115462 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 10:00 am to
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Well the irony is that our national monoculture developed as illegal immigration exploded


Because there were no legal

Italian
Irish
Cuban
Hispanic

Immigrants.

Nope.

Just illegals, apparently.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477115 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 10:02 am to
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Because there were no legal

Italian
Irish
Cuban
Hispanic

Immigrants.

Nope.

Just illegals, apparently.


So your argument is that non-illegal immigrants caused our monoculture developing while illegal immigration exploded?
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13817 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 10:23 am to
Illegal aliens and/or invaders.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13817 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 10:23 am to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55576 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 11:02 am to
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Typically in secret, sometimes in small groups and sometimes in large numbers

Who refuse to assimilate to the culture of the nation they have entered

Who cannot speak the native language of the nation they have entered

Who routinely waive the flag of the country they left

None of these things are true of the vast majority of illegals who come from Latin America. Keep the Muslims out, but if we cannot turn around our sinking birth rates, we will be fortunate to have such innocuous immigrants as Latinos.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47609 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 11:04 am to
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None of these things are true of the vast majority of illegals who come from Latin America


Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55576 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 11:26 am to
One of those things is actually true. Only one third of Latino illegal immigrants are proficient in English upon entering the US.

72% of Latinos in the US are proficient in English, which shows assimilation. We are extremely lucky that the immigration that naturally comes ashore in the US is Christian. If we can avoid the self-inflicted wounds of letting in Muslims or uneducated Indians, and replace the illegal Latino immigration with legal, selective immigration, we will be in good shape.
Posted by ghost_rider10
JHS
Member since Nov 2025
469 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 11:27 am to
A national security threat
Posted by RandRules
Member since Mar 2025
411 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 11:29 am to
You’ll never get a correct answer from the people this is directed at. They purposefully confuse words. Case in point:
lib·er·al
/'lib(?)r?l/
adjective
1.
willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37583 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 11:42 am to
Soooo you are talking about your relatives?
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82405 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 11:51 am to
Tourists?
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
7249 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 11:53 am to
Colonists
Pioneers
Pilgrims
Settlers
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41326 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 11:53 am to
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I've yet to see anyone adequately define what our culture actually consists of


Hint - it’s not people who can’t read and don’t speak English
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47609 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 12:51 pm to
Culturally, the differences pale in comparison to Muslims when compared to the US, but don’t let the smooth taste fool you. America is filled with ethic barrios and surrounding communities that are nearly indistinguishable from the average South American street market. That’s not assimilating.

That said, it doesn’t scare me as much as the Muslims. They are politically dangerous whereas Latin culture is fairly politically benign and sort of badass in many ways.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55576 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 1:05 pm to
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don’t let the smooth taste fool you. America is filled with ethic barrios and surrounding communities that are nearly indistinguishable from the average South American street market. That’s not assimilating.

That’s going to happen when you let in too many too fast. But stop the immigration and they will assimilate. Also, enforce English proficiency for citizenship.

In the late 80’s there was a guy named Peter Brimelow who predicted all of this. He appeared in National Review’s pages and on Firing Line debates. He kept emphasizing the need to pause immigration to allow assimilation. That guy was dead right. And those who opposed, like Ira Glasser, were dead wrong.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 1:07 pm to
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I've yet to see anyone adequately define what our culture actually consists of


I'm pretty sure this thread means "white."
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89814 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 1:07 pm to
If 20 million Russians crossed the border in the middle of the night we would call it an invasion.


This was no different.


Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115462 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

Soooo you are talking about your relatives?


Nope. All mine either legally came here, or we already here when Europeans arrived.
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