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re: What do we think RFK will actually do regarding our food?

Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:53 am to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:53 am to
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Thank you. I don’t know what you actually consider your ideology, but to me it seems left center.



When I'm not trolling, I'm a pragmatist.

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Whether it pans out or not is another discussion, but at least some people are saying the right things.



There are people on both sides who understand something is wrong and fixing it requires hard work. Outside of the possibility of vaccine hesitancy, there are aspects of RFK's approach I appreciate. Politics doesn't have to be all or nothing.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182081 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:54 am to
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Lmao. This hasn't been true about human populations since at least the Neolithic, and looking at human social structures, it likely wasn't true ever.


Shhh...don't burst Roger's ideal libertarian world bubble
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:56 am to
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Shhh...don't burst Roger's ideal libertarian world bubble


“I’m stronger because I don’t need a tribe to…..pow you’re dead.” Why do we have a military? All you need is one libertarian.
This post was edited on 11/18/24 at 8:58 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298503 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:57 am to
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You’re not worried about them because you’re protected by the big gov nanny police state.


No, I can outgun them, and outrun them.

they;re all fat now.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:59 am to
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No, I can outgun them, and outrun them. they;re all fat now.


Every libertarian believes they are John Wick. Hopefully everyone who is reasonable and logical reading this thread has just seen the proof from this statement needed to realize there is no ideology
More mentally ill than libertarianism.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298503 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:00 am to
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Every libertarian believes they are John Wick.


Never saw the movie, slick.

But I have lived here for 30 years and understand the people faaaaaar better than you ever will.

I got it made here.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:01 am to
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Never saw the movie, slick.


You don’t have to see it lunchbox, in your mentally ill state you are living it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298503 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:03 am to
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You don’t have to see it lunchbox, in your mentally ill state you are living it.


I got it made brother. Sorry you need more nannyism.


It makes you very angry that some dont require it..
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:03 am to
You can be Rambo with your 5 AR-15s and 5,000 5.56 FMJ round stockpile and preach libertarianism to the masses. You just have to wait long enough for the centuries long evolution of power concentrations, innovation, and supply chains that allowed the very bullets that give your illusion of freedom, to coalesce in just the right way. And then you can signal to your radical anarchist brethren from your smartphone. Just like Adam Smith planned it all along.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39806 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:10 am to
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Because we kill off the strong in war and save the weak through welfare and regulation.


No, what I mean is that selective pressures on human populations do not work that way. And nutritional limitations have made relative things like 'strength' dependent on the environment. And given the sheer number of very different environments that humans inhabitants, the lesson is that human adaptability is the most important human characteristic. The common theme of human development is that humans have been able to maximize and dominate each environment they inhabit, which is utterly unique in animal terms.

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I take you you too require govt guidelines to be healthy


As in personally? No, but there are places where governments should intervene. If an ingredient is proven to be harmful, shouldn't we regulate it?

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How do all those healthy people survive without RFK guiding them?


This generation of people 45 and above are exquisitely unhealthy. They are surviving, but at the ground level, without some intervention, there is a disaster about to happen. Especially as these people grow older and their pathologies grow. They will expect care and they will get it and then everyone else will share in the burden. Intervention now is better than more intrusive interventions later. That's the reality of my patients, of whom there are a lot.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182081 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:11 am to
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Because we kill off the strong in war and save the weak through welfare and regulation.

I take you you too require govt guidelines to be healthy.

How do all those healthy people survive without RFK guiding them? Its a miracle!



Roger, I don't want to kick you while you are down and dealing with health issues AKA cancer but I have to point out the irony in you preaching "the strong survive" while being kept alive through pharmaceuticals that were found to control your disease thanks to trial and error, regulations, Gov controlled studies, etc.

In other words, you would already be dead in your idealistic libertarian world where society does not care about one another.

Its quite the conundrum for you.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45533 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:11 am to
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What do we think RFK will actually do regarding our food?


Hold a bunch of hearings, release papers, but in the end nothing will happen.
Posted by RustyDaDog
BAOK
Member since Mar 2023
1056 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:19 am to
Maybe he’ll get the High Frutcose Cornsyrup out of everything
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
26255 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:25 am to
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Agreed that there’s a problem with food, but I don’t need or want the government “ok” on what eat

Problem is, you don’t know what you are eating.

An ingredients list hardly tells that story.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
87208 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:33 am to
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the ingredients are known to cause cancer


Prove it. They are not “known” to cause cancer.

Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:35 am to
Which ingredients are you talking about?
Posted by mjfrog93
Member since Aug 2018
1358 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:37 am to
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I would argue that we do a fantastic job regulating food safety as it is.

You're wanting government to intervene and save those who dont need saving. Its their own choice, let them make it.


This is the problem. "we do a fantastic job". No "we" fricking do not! We also talk about how the average age has increased in order for us to delay social security benefits. That's also a BS lie. Our elders lived longer than us and they pulled this bullsht argument about how we live to allow us to buy in on a longer wait for our benefits. Our own "health" entities told us that butter and egg yolks are bad for us, because the big cigars needed to make money. We now see that natural butter, tallow based cooking oil, etc, is way more healthy than what govt. aholes have been pushing on us.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298503 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:40 am to
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No "we" fricking do not!


According to?

The Democratic Socialist in charge of HHS?

Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28046 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:41 am to
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Our own "health" entities told us that butter and egg yolks are bad for us, because the big cigars needed to make money.


Someone was always going to make or lose money. The problem was that we had a fork in the road for diagnosing our rising heart and metabolic disease issues and we chose the wrong fork. There was a camp back then (1950s maybe?) preaching the dangers of sugar and a camp preaching the dangers of fats. The latter camp won and we're just now figuring it out that they were mostly wrong.
This post was edited on 11/18/24 at 9:43 am
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 9:43 am to
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The nanny state breeds idiocy.

Europe is self annihilating, do you want that too?


This is a tough one for me. I don't like the nanny state, but we have also found ourselves in the weird situation of foreign countries are basically forcing global corps to provide a shittier product at a higher value in America to offset their insane laws. I am sick and tired of footing the health, wellness, and actual bill because Tyson wants to do business in Europe.
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