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re: What do Republican women have that Democrat women don’t?
Posted on 2/1/26 at 1:33 pm to 4cubbies
Posted on 2/1/26 at 1:33 pm to 4cubbies
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Ok. That doesn’t mean I complained about my “low paying government jobs.”
That's exactly what it sounds like.
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these were your words.
Lets check the tape?
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. I also get paid when I refuse to go to work. I imagine you do, too.
Nope, they are a direct quote from you.
Most people at this point might stop digging...
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hatred for poor white people? If I actually hated white men, I wouldn’t post here. Or be best friends with my big brother. Or be married to a white guy. Two thirds of my kids, who I adore and cherish, are white boys. When have I expressed hatred for a woman because she’s attractive?
Poor white people? I'm sure you like white people who are of your financial status, or in your social circle.
But hate to break it to you, claims of systematic racism are indeed disdainful towards poor white people who are in the exact same boat as minorities.
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I can’t help but wonder how ugly y’all are if the assumption is that because I post here, I cannot be attractive.
One can be attractive or unattractive and still when your claims about her wealth disappear, go straight to her attractiveness as an example of her "privilege" it will come off as rather petty.
As quoted below.
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And you cite Casey Anthony's volunteer attorney (not public defender) as evidence that our system is not broken. If an attractive white woman was able to obtain a pro bono private legal expert, every impoverished minority will surely also be that lucky, proving that our system is in fact objectively just for everyone.
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None of this is cheap. But I remember a thread not that long ago where posters were mocking me for owning a house in such a cheap city. Like “haha you’re poor. Houses average $250k where you live,” or something like that.
Yea... everyone makes $350k and mocks the poors. It's a known flaw around here.
It's like both sides think noblesse oblige is a pharma product.
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I cannot win with you people.
All of us? No, No one can win with all people.
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Either way, one does not need to be a member of a group to advocate for them. Lots of people advocate for communities they care about without being inside that group themselves. The fact that you can’t comprehend that says more about you than anyone else.
Isn't this what I've been saying, you have wealth, but obsess about other's privilege.
You fought tooth and nail to deny what is a basic summary of your statements, there was no good reason to deny what was as plain as day, nor does wealth prevent someone for advocating on behalf of the poor.
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I don’t know why you suddenly have such a bone to pick with me. I thought we were buddies.
Because you get frustrated when others see your statements as mutually incompatible.
And that's beyond just the I pay my housekeeper an equivalent salary of $83,200 ($40x2080)
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City of New Orleans employee salaries are usually between $42,450 and $73,326.
The average employee salary for Orleans Parish, Louisiana in 2023 was $61,586.
Average state of Louisiana salary is $46,731 and median salary is $44,529
It's beyond the, first I claim my housekeeper is here legally but is afraid of ICE, but then I claim I never asked her if she is an American. (BTW you should fill out an SS-8 for her since you admit to giving her vacation).
It's beyond I pay 2x the going rate and don't even know.
It's beyond I don't pay taxes on her while taking a public salary and advocating for more social spending.
It's fundamentally that you see it as your place to undermine the justice system.
You aren't able to see how your views for "them" are different than your views for "I", so as long as you have a separate "them" lens, you won't understand why people like myself and many here see the world differently than you do.
Hopefully you at least now see how your comments about yourself are the same as most people here.
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My husband is the oldest of 6 and is the first person in his family to go to college. When I met him, he was making less money working at his shite dead end job than I made working at mine. I’m proud of the life we have built together.
Not supported by family wealth, or by "institutional racism", or by "white privilege", or indeed by "structural racism", no you went fully aligned with almost everyone here.
Half the people you fight with have said the same thing in response to some of your previous claims.
Eventually you are going to understand that some of us don't see life as "I and mine" vs "They and them".
That's the basis for the legal system we have inherited, that most people are able to overcome any supposed bias and indeed can be impartial as a judge or on a jury.
Eventually you might see why the outcome of a strong justice system is better for the common good than an undermined one.
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 1:48 pm to 4cubbies
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You’re right. These marginalized groups don’t have enough power to persecute you.
You chose to use the word persecuted. So, you knowingly used a word that you knew wasn’t possibly happening? I’ll remember that.
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I guess they just hurt your feelings. Shame on gay men for disliking you
You’re mistaking my noticing how hateful gay men are to conservative women for my feelings being hurt by their meanness. This seems very much like projection. I realize some people are more sensitive than I am and sometimes we assume others feel the same.
I’m comfortable in my skin and not too concerned with what strangers think of me.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:53 pm to Narax
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Poor white people? I'm sure you like white people who are of your financial status, or in your social circle.
I get along with everyone. I’m friendly. I’m around poor, often homeless, white every time I go to work. We get along just fine.
In fact, there’s a homeless white guy that’s been coming in for a few weeks. He has face tattoos which give the wrong impression of him because he’s super sweet and docile. His needs don’t fall under my purview so I don’t know him too well but always say hello and make small talk with him.
Friday he pulled me aside and said he had something he wanted to show me. He’s an artist and showed me pencil and charcoal sketches of Mother Teresa, the Blessed Mother with baby Jesus and one of St. Ann. I was so surprised! I asked him how he knew I would like to see those and he said. “Well I know you’re a mom.” I told him I’m pretty Catholic too. It was such a cool coincidence. He told me he’s planning to start OCIA once he gets stable housing. I thought that whole interaction was so neat.
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But hate to break it to you, claims of systematic racism are indeed disdainful towards poor white people who are in the exact same boat as minorities.
Two things can be true at the same time: white people can be poor, and race can independently shape how institutions treat people. Denying the existence of systemic racism doesn’t help poor white people.
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One can be attractive or unattractive and still when your claims about her wealth disappear, go straight to her attractiveness as an example of her "privilege" it will come off as rather petty.
As quoted below.
So now we’re denying the existence of pretty privilege too? Nothing about claiming that a pretty young white woman got preferential treatment is petty.
quote:straw man. Acknowledgment isn’t obsession.
Isn't this what I've been saying, you have wealth, but obsess about other's privilege.
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You fought tooth and nail to deny what is a basic summary of your statements,
It looked like you wanted me to type a detailed autobiography and provide copies of my household’s tax returns.
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And that's beyond just the I pay my housekeeper an equivalent salary of $83,200 ($40x2080)
I can’t make it any clearer that she doesn’t clean my house 40 hours a week. I’ve stated over and over that she comes once a week for 3-5 hours. We usually give her $150/week.
It is a luxury that i prioritize because I don’t have the capacity to work full-time, teach catechism, help lead my daughter’s Girl Scout troop, volunteer at my kids school, stay on track in my doctoral program, care for my family AND stay on top of housework.
quote:When? I don’t advocate for any spending.
and advocating for more social spending.
quote:what are you referring to? Undermine how?
It's fundamentally that you see it as your place to undermine the justice system.
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Eventually you might see why the outcome of a strong justice system is better for the common good than an undermined one.
Hopefully one day you’ll also be willing to reckon with the fact that our supposedly “strong” justice system has coincided with massively increased incarceration rates even as crime rates declined for long stretches of time. At some point it’s fair to ask how a system can call itself strong when its primary growth metric is how many people it cages, not how much crime it actually prevents.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:57 pm to Pinecone Repair
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You’re mistaking my noticing how hateful gay men are to conservative women for my feelings being hurt by their meanness. This seems very much like projection.
Really? I’m not trying to convince strangers that gay men hate me though. What am I projecting?
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I’m comfortable in my skin and not too concerned with what strangers think of me.
So you aren’t bothered by your perception that gay men hate you?
Posted on 2/1/26 at 4:00 pm to Azkiger
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I don't have a side, but I'm going to pretend that conservatives are the ones habitually insulting their opposition."
I mean, conservatives here certainly habitually insult their opposition. Are you willing to consider there are assholes on both sides?
Posted on 2/1/26 at 4:34 pm to L.A.
Wholesome Healthy Appearance
Posted on 2/1/26 at 4:38 pm to Delupe
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A degree in home economics or divinity studies from Liberty, Hillsdale or Bob Jones vice a STEM or Business degree from MIT, Stanford, Duke, Cal Tech or an Ivy?
As opposed to your side who majors in racism and DEI with a minor in hatred of America.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 4:42 pm to 4cubbies
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I mean, conservatives here certainly habitually insult their opposition. Are you willing to consider there are assholes on both sides?
I'm willing to cede that after a decade or more of being called Nazi, fascist, KKK, etc., after being run off most social media platforms, after repeated lies told by the MSM that never get corrected (there are still people parroting hands up don't shoot, RussiaGate, very fine people, that Kyle Rittenhouse shot 3 black people), that conservatives have had enough and are lashing back out in return.
Once the rhetoric calms down, once the doxing stops, once the cries of fascism stop, once the left stops the violence (against federal officers, the autonomous zones, blocking traffic, firebombing Tesla dealerships, assassinating their political opposition), then we'll revisit not calling you cucks and retards.
Until then, at least recognize that internet insults is not even a fricking 1/100th of the vile hatred your side spews.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 4:45 pm to 4cubbies
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I thought that whole interaction was so neat.
The image that comes to mind...
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Two things can be true at the same time: white people can be poor, and race can independently shape how institutions treat people. Denying the existence of systemic racism doesn’t help poor white people.
So does taking services and funding to "adjust systematic racism" take away resources from poor white people, not to mention poor Asians.
The irony is that your "Systematic racism" is all about disparate outcomes.
The outcome of that line of thought has been dedicated programs and benefits for all but white (and usually Asian) males.
Repeated attempts to change the inputs in hope to adjust the outcomes.
And yes, it has been systematic across much of society.
So do you think that a poor white person in the current day has systematic and provable input differences that put him at an advantage compared to the various minority outreach and funding programs at state and federal levels such as .
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SBA is committed to supporting the development and growth of minority-owned small businesses and entrepreneurs from underserved communities.
quote:... Privilege... It's a privilege... that only young white women get...
So now we’re denying the existence of pretty privilege too? Nothing about claiming that a pretty young white woman got preferential treatment is petty.
Not minority women, not that such pretty women often spend hours on their appearance. I hate to break it to you, but most women who work out, and spend a lot of time learning about makeup are "pretty" between 18 and 60.
Maybe not to other women, but to men absolutely. I'm not sure how many women eat all day then roll out of bed to collect their "pretty privilege".
Not everything in life is "privilege", you have been brainwashed.
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straw man. Acknowledgment isn’t obsession.
In your case it's obsession, you are going for a PhD in "Justice Studies". Your thesis is "on Justice".
You bring up privilege when Justice gets brought up.
At least you finally admitted your wealth privilege...
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It looked like you wanted me to type a detailed autobiography and provide copies of my household’s tax returns.
No, just to be consistent. I wasn't making stuff up, I was reading the words you had typed.
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I can’t make it any clearer that she doesn’t clean my house 40 hours a week. I’ve stated over and over that she comes once a week for 3-5 hours. We usually give her $150/week.
I think you've conceded the point already, unless you want to go into the fact you aren't paying taxes on her in spite of paying her for time off.
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It is a luxury that i prioritize because I don’t have the capacity to work full-time, teach catechism, help lead my daughter’s Girl Scout troop, volunteer at my kids school, stay on track in my doctoral program, care for my family AND stay on top of housework.
I think we already established you have money, you have wealth(yay home ownership), your wealth accrues without labor (401ks, investments, Housing equity), hence it's at least partially unearned in spite of what your husband and you make.
Now you are free to mention exactly what systematic racism is common today.
But to note, the top ones are always...
#1. Education
#2. Employment and wealth
#3. Homeownership
All things you are proud of having earned.
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When? I don’t advocate for any spending.
Sounds good, we do not need to increase social spending.
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what are you referring to? Undermine how?
Soo you think our justice system is "Just" and "Legitimate"?
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Hopefully one day you’ll also be willing to reckon with the fact that our supposedly “strong” justice system has coincided with massively increased incarceration rates even as crime rates declined for long stretches of time. At some point it’s fair to ask how a system can call itself strong when its primary growth metric is how many people it cages, not how much crime it actually prevents.
Some might say that it's working if incarceration leads to decreases in crime...
Others would say that the explosion of drugs in the 1970s led to increased crime.
Still others would note Welfare or the removal of the death penalty heralded spikes.
Roe V Wade + 20 years led to a drop in crimes as many of the poor were never born.
Removal of Manufacturing and farm jobs,
Or in general the declines of religion.
Either way, those being incarcerated have already committed crimes, one needs to make assumptions on the crime rate with them still in society.
To note though that we have seen the recent spike in crime when policing was... reduced.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 5:04 pm to 4cubbies
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Really? I’m not trying to convince strangers that gay men hate me though. What am I projecting?
I’m not trying to convince you, though. I just mentioned it because you asked why I assumed someone was a homosexual male. Believe me or don’t. Other than responding here it has no other impact on my life.
You’re projecting your personal feelings towards a stranger being nasty onto me.
I just don’t get emotional over mean things strangers say about me.
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So you aren’t bothered by your perception that gay men hate you?
No. I don’t know how many times you’re going to ask me the same question. Unless you have anything new to ask or talk about, we should end this discussion here.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 5:08 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Unfortunate truth. Invectives are overdone nowadays. Here and elsewhere. Sometimes I have to chuckle at exchanges with folks on this site who, IRL, would be just a touch of a skosh more deferent.
I mean, conservatives here certainly habitually insult their opposition.
I don't recall a single individual IRL ever referring to me as "stupid," or an "idiot," or "lacking reading comprehension," etc.. I''m being very reserved in those observations. In instances where I get such grief here, I'd guess 1/2-3/4's comes from "conservatives".
However in fairness, there are also many more "conservatives" here than libs.
This post was edited on 2/1/26 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 2/1/26 at 5:12 pm to L.A.
Rachel Maddow looks like a man because he’s transgender.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 5:27 pm to NC_Tigah
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However in fairness, there are also many more "conservatives" here than libs.
Also in fairness, the majority of posters seem to be pretty rude on here. Not saying they are feral IRL, but they are here.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 5:33 pm to 4cubbies
quote:That is not remotely my experience.
the majority of posters seem to be pretty rude on here
But FWIW, you receive FAR, FAR. more "rude" behavior than is warranted., and admittedly you and I do come at societal challenges from very differing viewpoints.
This post was edited on 2/1/26 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 2/1/26 at 6:07 pm to NC_Tigah
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you and I do come at societal challenges from very differing viewpoints.
Right, but you aren’t feral. I don’t think I am either.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 6:15 pm to 4cubbies
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Also in fairness, the majority of posters seem to be pretty rude on here. Not saying they are feral IRL, but they are here.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 6:28 pm to NC_Tigah
The majority isn’t all.
I didn’t say “everyone” on purpose.
I didn’t say “everyone” on purpose.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 6:36 pm to Narax
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your case it's obsession, you are going for a PhD in "Justice Studies".
Of course it’s in woke nonsense.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 6:42 pm to L.A.
A logical husband with a job
Posted on 2/1/26 at 6:50 pm to djsdawg
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Of course it’s in woke nonsense.
Yup, that's the thing about woke nonsense, it's all about compartmentalization.
It's no different then mega church millionaire pastors.
If they practiced what they preached they wouldn't all be buying houses, investing in the market, trying to increase their salaries, or touting their education.
None of them actually believe in any of it, much less plan to act on it in their personal lives.
This post was edited on 2/1/26 at 6:51 pm
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