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re: What benefit does Israel provide the US that can’t otherwise be provided or done in house?

Posted on 2/6/25 at 2:05 pm to
Posted by DoctorWorm
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 2:05 pm to
I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 2:12 pm to
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Freedom of religion in the Holy Lands.

Why should the United States government be concerned with that?

Like it or not, The Holy Land protections is embedded in our Western values.

No other international piece of land is as important. Get it to be a peaceful area for Christiandom and Christians to make their journey there isn't something new to American wants. "to the shores of Tripoli" isn't a part of our history just protecting trade routes, but also protecting early Americans heading to The Holy Land for their pilgrimages.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 2:13 pm to
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I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you


We were a blessed country before Israel was a nation.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
7859 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 2:26 pm to
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We were a blessed country before Israel was a nation.

And Americans were making pilgrimages to The Holy Land asking for blessings before that too. It's about the significance of the land, not Jewish Israelis.

There can be plenty of discussion on how to get it to benifit us better, but protecting the land is needed. How to make sure the Israeli govt are better stewards is important to have. I'll agree there, but theres a lot of anti-Jew reasoning on why we need to stay out. And dismissing the importance of protecting the land for what it is. The most important piece of land in the world to our foundational moral values.

Heck, for all I care let's turn it into the sole world's equivalent of a protected "national park". Having a base in the area that we don't have to ask permission from the locals to be there would be nice too.

I know I'll get beat up for this opinion, but I dont really care, Margarets
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 2:28 pm to
The guy who owns Only Fans is Jewish. Pornography in general is a Jewish industry.
Posted by GerasimosNina
Member since Jan 2025
125 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 2:42 pm to
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Israel is an ally.


You state this as fact like the sun rises in the east yet provide no actual facts to show how this “ally” benefits AMERICAN CITIZENS.

This post was edited on 2/7/25 at 10:38 am
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 2:43 pm to
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The guy who owns Only Fans is Jewish.


So they are pulling money out of here from every direction except groceries and energy?

I bet the shadow of his wallet weighs 5 lbs.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49526 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 2:45 pm to
location location location

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intelligence sharing that we could never hope to match wrt muslim world

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a genuinely dedicated population who are willing to fight and die in defense of their homeland

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a forced reminder of what evil can occur when 'ordinary' people look out only for themselves and fail to aid their neighbor - until the inevitable "... and then they came for me" occurs.

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the only nation anywhere close to our value system in the entire region
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 2:48 pm to
Why should Egypt and Jordan go along with Trump’s inane proposal. Jordan , especially, has done a lot for America over the years. They have assisted with intelligence and been a stabilizing force against radical have been a stabilizing force angainst radical Islam and terrorism.
Posted by BigBro
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 2:48 pm to
Posted by Seldom Seen
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 2:50 pm to
Posted by Rex Feral
Somewhere near Athens
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 3:18 pm to
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Israel surely seems to have their hand out a lot?


Asking for money when you already have a lot of money is the most Jewish thing there is.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 3:43 pm to
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Why should Egypt and Jordan go along with Trump’s inane proposal. Jordan , especially, has done a lot for America over the years. They have assisted with intelligence and been a stabilizing force against radical have been a stabilizing force angainst radical Islam and terrorism.



Turkey is an emerging threat to other interests ,, if America is seen as a limiting factor on Isreal.. that another reason for US ME interests to cooperate


Iran has few friends and a lot of enemies Hammas ,, and of the Jihadist are destabilizers UAE and other powers don't make profit when bowmbs are popping
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 4:11 pm to
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benefits AMERICAN CITIZENS


Having another country in the ME that doesn't want to end us. I'd consider that a plus.

If Palestine wants peace and tranquility, they better figure out a way to get the peaceful ones to start taking a stand against the radicals.

Posted by Delacroix22
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 4:27 pm to
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Freedom of religion in the Holy Lands


You can’t be serious
Posted by Delacroix22
Member since Aug 2013
4537 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 4:30 pm to
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I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you


The Biblical Tribes of Israel have absolutely zero connection to the modern nation of Israel nor the race of people who inhabit it







Jews literally believe Jesus is boiling in human diarrhea in hell for all eternity.

I won't go into the entire religious diatribe about why the Jews killed Jesus but I will expound upon the racial composition of "Israel" today.

What you need to understand is that the "Babylonian Exile" is not nearly as profound as Biblical texts explain. Most archaeologists agree the captive Judeans numbered maybe a few hundred. The rest of the citizens of Judah remained.

So if they never LEFT.... where are they NOW?

Well they eventually were all conquered and forcibly converted to Islam during Muhamed's military campaigns in the region.

Don't you find it odd that the "Jews" who inhabit Israel today are light skinned practically caucasian appearing humans? If they had ancestry and geneological ties to the region which is practically a desert.... don't you think they would look like other people native to the region.... such as Palestinians?

The Palestinians of today are the offspring of the original inhabitants of the region. That's how people from that region look.



Jews of today are LARPing as God's Chosen People. The Romans conquered Khazaria and forced them to give up their pagan religion or else be put to death.

They chose Judaism.

And used the stories to foster a sense of racial identity and under the incorrect delusion that they are God's Chosen People.

I won't even get into that but Jesus came to Earth to dispel the entire notion of "God's Chosen People".

Heaven isn't for a specific race, it is for all mankind to enter if they act according to God's will. That is why Jesus was put to death and that is why Jews loathe Christians to this day. The mere EXISTENCE of Jesus reminds them that their claim of being God's chosen and that all other races are cattle put on earth by God and disguised as humans as not to disgust them to serve them --- all is completely refuted.
This post was edited on 2/6/25 at 4:46 pm
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 4:43 pm to
Jesus was adressing Jews in that context, but was also referencing anyone that did not believe Jesus Christ was in fact The Messiah and GOD in flesh.

He was speaking to anyone that rejects Him. Anyone that rejects Christ is of Satan whether they choose to see or not. Without Christ, they will indeed discover Satan is their master in the end.
Posted by GerasimosNina
Member since Jan 2025
125 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 4:56 pm to
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Having another country in the ME that doesn't want to end us


Please name the ME country that wants “to end us” that has made an actual attack of consequence on our homeland?

9/11 was directed by a dude living in a cave.
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8946 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 5:07 pm to
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Israel has the Palestinians,Syria, Iran and the other protagonists on the ropes disorganized and weakened.

What do you think it is they're doing to the US? Their people control our government, our banks, our media, our justice system, our medical sector, and several other vital sectors.

They're the ones who push and finance woke propaganda in order to divide America.
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the problems In the Middle East just aren't going to go away but the situation is now that the adversaries of democracy and Western civilization in the area might be a little bit more manageable

They're our adversaries because we back Israel blindly. They had nothing against us until Israel dragged us into the Middle East.

Either way, we don't have to choose the lesser of two evils. Both Israel and Palestine can suck a fat cock. Let the region sort itself out without American input.
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and if they can be placed physically further away from the Israeli population and made more the responsibility of Jordan and Egypt and the other Muslim countries

Why? It's their home. Not our problem or duty to ethnically cleanse a region for the Jews. They can fire up their own ovens and gas chambers and do it themselves....but they won't because then they'll lose their precious "muh holocaust" victim card. So they're getting us goyim to do their job.

If they truly want to live in peace, then it'll be better to send the Jews back to Europe. Germany, Poland, Russia, and several other eastern European countries should take their Jews back and give Palestine back to the Palestinians.

Either way....NOT OUT PROBLEM. Israel is not our ally. You weirdo and sinful evangelicals need to piss off.
This post was edited on 2/6/25 at 5:10 pm
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 5:24 pm to
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the only nation anywhere close to our value system in the entire region




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even the best of the Goyim should be killed


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When a Jew murders a Goyim there will be no death penalty


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Jews can use lies to circumvent a Goy


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If a Jew finds an object lost by a Goy it does not have to be returned


Realistically, they’re alien in same way Muslims are.
This post was edited on 2/6/25 at 5:37 pm
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