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re: What are your reasons for believing climate change is "a hoax"

Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:16 am to
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:16 am to
Do you also believe that vaccines cause autism? What other conspiracies do you believe in?
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:16 am to
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I'm not demanding a tax

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Funny how you ignored my post where it proved that scientists falsified data for a political agenda. Guess what... that agenda wasn't "your" agenda. To act like these people in here care what Powerman is asking for makes you intellectually embarrassing. They care about the actual political agenda of the political powers in this country. And the liberal left has certainly demanded all sorts of taxes. Carbon taxes, windfall profit taxes, you name it.

You've embarrassed yourself. Quit while you're behind.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:17 am to
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But why did they change it from AGW to CC?

For the same reason people say happy holidays. Brevity.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
43205 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:17 am to
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So you with literally 0 qualifications just moved the goal posts by coming up with an arbitrary set of questions

That's impressive


He brought logic and actual SCIENCE to the discussion and kicked your arse at your own game. Care to answer his questions or is it because you can’t, zombie?
Posted by OTIS2
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:17 am to
I think “global warming “ evolved into “climate change” for reasons we likely will not agree on...
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:18 am to
History.

Not the 200 year window we like to look into.

But the 4 billion year old one that says this is complete fricking nonsense to think man is causing this.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:18 am to
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Funny how you ignored my post where it proved that scientists falsified data for a political agenda.

Sorry I haven't read every post in the thread

I'll look into your conspiracy blog in a minute
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:19 am to
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He brought logic and actual SCIENCE to the discussion and kicked your arse at your own game.

No he didn't

He regurgitated a bunch of stupid shite he read somewhere that is meant to push the dumb conspiracy theorist side
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:19 am to
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For the same reason people say happy holidays. Brevity.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
43205 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:20 am to
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For the same reason people say happy holidays. Brevity


Oh. I thought it would have had more to do with Science.

Thread is shite.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:20 am to
1) the data only goes back so far - so while it may have gotten warmer recently, nobody can say for certain that it hasn’t happened at other times in history.

2) even assuming that the first is true (the current “warming” trend or whatever the high priests of global warming or climate change or whatever is calling it these days), there’s no evidence that humans have anything to do with - and if so how much do we have to do with it. You can’t pass laws that change behavior if you don’t know what behavior is causing the problem that you can’t even identify.

3) the main reason I am skeptical is because I SHOULD BE. The “scientists” who research this ostracize anyone. Anyone. Who challenges or questions the orthodoxy. Global warming is a theory. Not one of Newton’s Laws. It is not immoral to wonder whether a theory should cause us to raise taxes and then our lives upside down. Shutting down the questions and accepting this theory without any debate or curiosity, isn’t science. It’s what constitutes Religion for the left wing.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:20 am to
I'm of the belief that people will say and do anything to take an opposing viewpoint to almost any topic.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78157 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:21 am to
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I'm not demanding a tax
No one gives a frick about you or your lack of demands. The topic you brought up is multifaceted and riddled with politics. You're not winning an argument because posters go on relavent tangents not caring about your goals for this thread.
Posted by DevilDogTiger
RTWFY!
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:22 am to
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Brevity


Take the L
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
43205 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:22 am to
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He regurgitated a bunch of stupid shite he read somewhere that is meant to push the dumb conspiracy theorist side


Yet you and your crony “scientists” can’t answer those simple questions?

Thread is shite.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170705 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:22 am to
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there’s no evidence that humans have anything to do with

Except that there is a metric frick ton of evidence and the scientists who study the matter completely disagree with you

You can't just say there is no evidence when there is a lot of evidence

But you're an attorney so I'm sure you know better than the scientists.

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3) the main reason I am skeptical is because I SHOULD BE.

You should be skeptical of everything. Including the idea that this is all a hoax. Particularly when the idea that it's a hoax was created by big oil.

If you were in the 1950s would you be skeptical of people that said smoking was bad for you because big tobacco had scientists telling you it wasn't so bad?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:23 am to
1) the Earth's climatic and paleoclimatic history

2) the huge fusion reactor 93 million miles away

3) the fact that the computer models are almost never even close to being right, even when fed verified historical data

4) the rather serious divergence in surface temperature data and satellite data

5) the fact that many surface weather stations have not been relocated, despite substantial development around then that would skew readings

6) the huge gaps in the surface station coverage (see Africa, Asia, Russia) and the method of estimating/projecting temperatures in those areas

7) the curious nature of the "adjustments" made to surface temperature data

8) the fact that the concept of a "global" temperature ignores the inherently dynamic of the Earth's climate and is unscientific

9) that even if man is contributing at all (still not proven) it is a small part (at best, no more than 25%) and the "cure" will kill millions and destroy the standard of living of billions

10) that the potential positives of climate change (e.g., more arable lands) are never discussed or acknowledged

11) the people that are "behind" it (i.e., the strongest policy proponents) are the most anti-liberty, anti-property, anti-capitalist people out there

12) common fricking sense
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 7:26 am
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:23 am to
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Sorry I haven't read every post in the thread

I'll look into your conspiracy blog in a minute


A science.house.gov press release? Are you a fricking moron?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170705 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:23 am to
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Yet you and your crony “scientists” can’t answer those simple questions?

Thread is shite.

I'm not a climate scientist. And neither is anyone here.

The point is why do people believe in bullshite for political reasons.

It's ok to be a conservative and not believe that this shite is all some elaborate liberal hoax.

Just like it's ok to be a liberal and not believe in libtard shite like vaccines cause autism.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170705 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:24 am to
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A science.house.gov press release? Are you a fricking moron?


I thought we couldn't trust the government?
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