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re: What are your reasons for believing climate change is "a hoax"

Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:32 am to
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:32 am to
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***needs an anchor

*snowflake bitch alert
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:32 am to
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Looking like an idiot here is probably a good thing


You have some HUGE trophy by now then!
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:32 am to
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Celebrities being hypocrites about their energy usage doesn't change science.


And several posters have acknowledged the science involved and you’ve called them conspiracy theorists.

You don’t want to have a conversation. You want to preach from your religious pulpit. Yet, I’m not giving you any money today.

[slams door in face]
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:34 am to
I want to add to mine it's based on an extremely small recorded data set. "Reliable" recorded weather data barely gets back to the American Civil War.

To attempt to draw conclusions based on that (and, regardless of tree rings and ice core samples, this is the main component to the theory) is similar to the group of blind men attempting to describe the elephant by touch.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 7:36 am
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:34 am to
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Looking like an idiot here is probably a good thing


You've literally been linked to a government press release and won't acknowledge anything in it. Your insecurity is unbelievable.
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:35 am to
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He asks for answers in the OP. Then when you answer that question; he calls you a conspiracy theorist.



They are baseline questions.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162209 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:39 am to
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You've literally been linked to a government press release and won't acknowledge anything in it. Your insecurity is unbelievable.



I haven't read it yet but I will address it. You aren't the only person responding to the thread buttercup.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:40 am to
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Then you believe in a conspiracy



Do you deny that both government agencies as well as scientists around the globe have been caught falsifying data to intentionally paint a picture?
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29178 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:41 am to
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I haven't read it yet but I will address it. You aren't the only person responding to the thread buttercup.



I doubt you have the intellectual integrity to honestly address it.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162209 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:41 am to
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Do you deny that both government agencies as well as scientists around the globe have been caught falsifying data to intentionally paint a picture?


And when all of that data is thrown into the garbage the real data still points to the conclusion that anthropological climate change is real.

Do you deny that opposition to climate change was initiated by big oil?
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:44 am to
Well, the known fact that climate scientists adjusted the raw data they collected to support their hypothesis for one. That's not science. That's fraud.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38244 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:44 am to
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Do you deny that opposition to climate change was initiated by big oil?


AGW declared war on big oil.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 7:45 am
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162209 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:44 am to
OK so finally to your article

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In the summer of 2015, NOAA scientists published the Karl study, which retroactively altered historical climate change data and resulted in the elimination of a well-known climate phenomenon known as the “climate change hiatus.” The hiatus was a period between 1998 and 2013 during which the rate of global temperature growth slowed. This fact has always been a thorn in the side of climate change alarmists, as it became difficult to disprove the slowdown in warming.

Obviously this is terrible and data like this should be completely discarded. And I have no problem with entities making these claims to be audited to make sure that falsified data is completely thrown out.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162209 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:45 am to
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AGW declared war on big oil.

Just like science declared war on big tobacco!
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162209 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:45 am to
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Well, the known fact that climate scientists adjusted the raw data they collected to support their hypothesis for one. That's not science. That's fraud.



And with the falsified data completely discarded the real data reaches the conclusion that climate change is real and humans are causing it.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:46 am to
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MPG requirements for auto manufacturers have changed. So that's a solution that isn't taxes.


That's a tax, for all intents and purposes.
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Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:47 am to
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Just like science declared war on big tobacco!

Except the "science" that said secondhand smoke was a real thing right?
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38244 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:47 am to
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like science declared war on big tobacco!


Riiiiiiiight...and a whole new industry of vape was propped up through govt subsidies.

Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22233 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:48 am to
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MPG requirements for auto manufacturers have changed. So that's a solution that isn't taxes. That's a tax, for all intents and purposes.


And if the problem is climate change, it’s also not a solution.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38244 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:48 am to
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and humans are causing it.



By how much? This is an important question. If you can’t answer it, than frick off with this asinine thread.
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