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re: What are your reasons for believing climate change is "a hoax"
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:49 am to Powerman
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:49 am to Powerman
quote:It makes cars cost more. Money out of my pocket because of the government. Also are countries like India and China and Brazil adhering to the MPG requirements? If not then the regulation is completely pointless and serves only to make the weak minded feel better about themselves.
MPG requirements for auto manufacturers have changed. So that's a solution that isn't taxes.
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:49 am to Powerman
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I don't worship the government and don't suspect that they can fix it.
Then you should have no worries that the free market can!
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:50 am to Rover Range
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Well when all of the libruls and establishment repugs want it, along with all the cucked countries around the world that want the financial benefits it will give them, I can't help but think it's all a bunch of bullshite.
And your bullshite sensors don't go off when the main dissenters of climate change were funded by people like Exxon
BTW Exxon is now pretty much of the stance that climate change is real
When you have big oil saying it's a real thing then maybe it might be time to question if this is a conspiracy
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:51 am to Powerman
How much of warming is man made?
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:51 am to Powerman
quote:has anyone itt said otherwise?
BTW Exxon is now pretty much of the stance that climate change is real
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:51 am to bencoleman
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Nobody thinks climate change is a hoax. They question the motives of the people pushing it. It's a huge money and power grab and people are rightly going to reject it.
This. Plus they get so triggered over it
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:52 am to Powerman
The climate has always changed. I need not be taxed because of it. Additionally, if those that scream the loudest actually behaved like they truly believed it was going to be a catastrophe, I might begin to care at least an iota.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:52 am to Powerman
I understand that the climate changes constantly.
This is not a hoax.
Why do changes in weather patterns over a very short recorded seasonal period of time make you fearful and demand a tax?
This is not a hoax.
Why do changes in weather patterns over a very short recorded seasonal period of time make you fearful and demand a tax?
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:53 am to Powerman
Not going the way you expected, this thread is.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:54 am to Powerman
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What are your reasons for believing climate change is "a hoax"
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The earth's climate has been "changing" for 4.5 billions years. This is a fact.
While this is a fact, it is an irrelevant fact that does not disprove climate change.
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The conspiracy is that the liberals think that by taxing and redistributing my wealth, they can change this.
The science really doesn't care what liberals or conservatives want to do about the matter
This is text book liberal science denial.
Yes the climate has been changing for 4.5 billion years in cyclical pasterns but non of that matters because it doesn't support our wealth redistribution agenda.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:55 am to Powerman
What are your reasons for believing climate change isn't a "hoax"?
Especially when they admit to it being a hoax:
Especially when they admit to it being a hoax:
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Chairman Lamar Smith (R-Texas): “I thank Dr. John Bates for courageously stepping forward to tell the truth about NOAA’s senior officials playing fast and loose with the data in order to meet a politically predetermined conclusion. In the summer of 2015, whistleblowers alerted the Committee that the Karl study was rushed to publication before underlying data issues were resolved to help influence public debate about the so-called Clean Power Plan and upcoming Paris climate conference. Since then, the Committee has attempted to obtain information that would shed further light on these allegations, but was obstructed at every turn by the previous administration’s officials. I repeatedly asked, ‘What does NOAA have to hide?’
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:56 am to Powerman
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If you do not believe in the basis for a theory it has to be conspiracy?
Not necessarily
But the idea that climate change is a hoax is in fact a conspiracy
Nobody, literally nobody believes in an unchanging climate, what some people (a lot) find hard to believe is the latest doomsday predictions that are just like the ones that have not been coming true for 50 years, we also distrust the proposed money grabbing solutions..... #outoftinfoil
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:57 am to Powerman
quote:Control.
What is the conspiracy that I'm missing?
I have no doubt about Climate Change. Climate change is a reality of living on Earth.I have many doubts about the level of human contribution.
The Earth heats and cools. It is doing this now, and it did this before humans. Unless we are going to attribute prehuman gobal climate change to SUVs, presumably driven by dinos.
AGW is being used as a tool for globalization. I do not resist the idea of AGW, but I am skeptical. Particularly skeptical when every study seems to have a heavily political bent and aim.
So the conspiracy you are missing is control.
You're welcome.
But I get the inkling that you only made this thread to earn those leftist brownie points you so desire.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:59 am to Powerman
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. What I do care about is why the only solution is taxes.
Is it?
MPG requirements for auto manufacturers have changed. So that's a solution that isn't taxes.
Other forms of innovation are also solutions.
That was pretty easy to shoot down.
MPG increasing is a result of govt. interventions to decrease our reliance on imported (at the time ME sourced) oil. It came about as a result of the OPEC embargo of the 1970's causing shortages that revealed our vulnerability to economic means of war becoming a crippling physical act.
Pretty easy to shoot down your solution to man made global climate change when the solution was to some other problem.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:59 am to Roaad
in North Carolina this time of year the climate changes every 30 minutes.
I think the question is whether or not man is impacting the climate.
There are 7 billion people on the planet I'm more concerned about the quality of our food (soils) than I am the air or climate from SUVs... burning their exhaust in traffic time
I think the question is whether or not man is impacting the climate.
There are 7 billion people on the planet I'm more concerned about the quality of our food (soils) than I am the air or climate from SUVs... burning their exhaust in traffic time
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:59 am to Powerman
Climate change is caused by factors that include oceanic processes (such as oceanic circulation), biotic processes, variations in solar radiation received by Earth, plate tectonics and volcanic eruptions, and human-induced alterations of the natural world.
If we use only solar power to run everything, eliminate by products of production, there will still be Climate Change due to factors not in our control. Nature has it's own design on mother earth.
If we use only solar power to run everything, eliminate by products of production, there will still be Climate Change due to factors not in our control. Nature has it's own design on mother earth.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:02 am to Rover Range
His only goal is to be contrary. If this board was ready to offer more in taxes, recycle more, and reduce their carbon footprint, he'd start a thread about why we would submit to that.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:04 am to Powerman
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The earth's climate has been "changing" for 4.5 billions years. This is a fact.
quote:It does indicate they we are not in imminent danger of extinction because of it, though, does it not?
While this is a fact, it is an irrelevant fact that does not disprove climate change.
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The conspiracy is that the liberals think that by taxing and redistributing my wealth, they can change this.
quote:It does when it becomes a political issue. As another poster pointed out, the science has been wrong for a long, long time when it concerns the climate. What makes you dead set certain that it is correct, this time?
The science really doesn't care what liberals or conservatives want to do about the matter
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:04 am to Powerman
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MPG requirements for auto manufacturers have changed. So that's a solution that isn't taxes.
Government regulations are hidden taxes.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:04 am to Powerman
We once had an ice age, we no longer have an ice age. No human intervention could have possibly caused this. So no, not buying your snake oil today.
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