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re: What are your reasons for believing climate change is "a hoax"

Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:07 am to
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31392 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:07 am to
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What are your reasons for believing climate change is "a hoax"

What is the conspiracy that I'm missing? 

ETA - And I hope all of you realize that if you take this stance you are in fact subscribing to a conspiracy theory.



Masterful strawman construction.
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
7156 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:08 am to
Climate change has always been real. I don’t believe it has anything to do with human activity.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162175 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:08 am to
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The climate has always changed.

While this is a fact it's also meaningless to this discussion
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162175 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:08 am to
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Why do changes in weather patterns over a very short recorded seasonal period of time make you fearful and demand a tax?


I'm not demanding a tax

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Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:08 am to
LOL, OP getting his arse kicked and all he’s replied with are beyond atypical retorts out of the leftwing playbook.

You didn’t score any virtue points today, retard. Enjoy your turd sandwich.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:09 am to
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BTW Exxon is now pretty much of the stance that climate change is real
And what make anybody certain that any of the measure being taken will change climate change? there is not proof that it is man made, yet all efforts are being focused on reversing man made climate change.


People have answered your questions. Now you answer these.

1. Do you believe climate change is caused by man's activities?

2. If you do, what do you base this on?

3. Why do you think so much of the evidence has been manufactured to support climate change if it is, indeed real?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162175 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:09 am to
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LOL, OP getting his arse kicked

Being outnumbered and getting my arse kicked are 2 different things

That's like saying you would be getting your arse kicked on DU by pointing out the flaws in their gun control arguments
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
67928 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:09 am to
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Climate change is caused by factors that include oceanic processes (such as oceanic circulation), biotic processes, variations in solar radiation received by Earth, plate tectonics and volcanic eruptions, and human-induced alterations of the natural world.
whats amusing is that people believe scientists can take all of those variables, which are in many cases poorly understood with many unknowns, and plug them into an imperfect model to predict all of the pending catastrophes they drone on about while few if any of their catastrophic predictions of the last thirty years came to pass.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67450 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:10 am to
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While this is a fact it's also meaningless to this discussion



You set up the discussion using a false premise.

Most don't believe that climate change is a hoax.
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
20387 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:10 am to
Until these can be answered, it's a hoax

1. Define the “correct” temperature range for the planet.

2. Define the “correct” humidity range for the planet.

3. Define the “correct” mean sea level for the planet.

4. Define the “correct” amount of precipitation for the planet.

5. Define the “correct” makeup of the atmosphere.

6. Define the “correct” amount of sea ice at the N/S poles.

7. Define/explain past glaciation and subsequent warming without any input from humans.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
72790 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:10 am to
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Being outnumbered and getting my arse kicked are 2 different things


You got arse kicked
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162175 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:11 am to
quote:

1. Do you believe climate change is caused by man's activities?

Yes
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2. If you do, what do you base this on?

The preponderance of scientific studies that reach this conclusion

quote:

3. Why do you think so much of the evidence has been manufactured to support climate change if it is, indeed real?


I don't think that. The manufactured evidence comes from big oil. Really no different than big tobacco on smoking.

And now even big oil says that man made climate change is real
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
67928 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:11 am to
No, it's not.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162175 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:12 am to
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Until these can be answered, it's a hoax

So you with literally 0 qualifications just moved the goal posts by coming up with an arbitrary set of questions

That's impressive
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50057 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:12 am to
You talking “global warming” or “climate change” specifically...and what’s the difference, if you can help me. TIA
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27405 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:14 am to
Do people really say that climate change is a hoax and isn't happening? I agree that our climate is changing; climate change is real. I do not believe in anthropological climate change though. This is happening with or without us.

The conspiracy that you are missing is that government agencies and scientists that are using government funding for their research are changing the data to make it look more severe than it is, and projecting more severe changes than we are seeing to 1.) keep the money to them flowing and 2.) serve as a pipeline for wealth redistribution.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162175 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:14 am to
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You talking “global warming” or “climate change” specifically...and what’s the difference, if you can help me. TIA



I clarified in a previous post that they're the same thing. The term climate change is inclusive of global warming but acknowledges there are other issues other than just global warming that have potential to be problematic.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162175 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:15 am to
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I do not believe in anthropological climate change though.

Then you believe in a conspiracy

Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50057 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:15 am to
Ding, ding, ding!
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38225 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:16 am to
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clarified in a previous post that they're the same thing. The term climate change is inclusive of global warming but acknowledges there are other issues other than just global warming that have potential to be problematic.


But why did they change it from AGW to CC?
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