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re: What are the major policy differences between Trump and DeSantis
Posted on 11/9/22 at 7:43 am to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 11/9/22 at 7:43 am to Roger Klarvin
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Because it took him from just another rich and famous person to one of the most well known, powerful and influential people in human history.
But why keep going when all that's happening is home constantly being shite on, losing in whatever fashion you decide, etc?
He was extremely well known, filthy rich, and way more liked prior to all this. And he supposedly stood no chance of winning the first time. Why do any of it if it's just for him? That doesn't track logically at all.
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 7:43 am to Roger Klarvin
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DeSantis not costing the GOP multiple house and senate seats in the last two election cycles seems like enough of a difference to me. Trump is in this for himself, and while he did a lot of good things ultimately this was always about him. And now his well-being and that of the party are in conflict. Given that, whatever policy he espouses is almost irrelevant. He’s unelectable at this point.
Some of you are so dumb. No politician cares about you. Ron Desantis doesn’t know me, Joe Biden doesn’t know me. They can’t possibly care.
Most of these people are narcissists. I just find it funny that the one guy that lost money in all of this is portrayed as the one that doesn’t care, but all the others just care so much about you Roger.
It’s idiotic is what it is. Stop being so emotional. What are you going to do when they say Desantis has Chinese pee tapes? You going to crawl in the corner and vote dem or third party?
Posted on 11/9/22 at 7:49 am to ItNeverRains
We need to put country ahead of the cult of personality. I know we like what Trump did but what he didn't do haunts us all. He knew the mail-in ballot BS would kill us but he didn't go to state legislatures controlled by GOP and get them to stop it. He pushed several bad candidates in the primary, some so bad the Dims voted for them in open primaries and it cost us. But what really cost us is his lack of self control. His immaturity. His picking fights with people that largely agree with him. Things like his threats to DeSantis and his name calling. This crap only helps the Democrats. He turns people off.
Why did DeWine win Ohio easily but Vance struggled? Why did Kemp win Georgia clearly but Walker struggles to get into a runoff? Trump isn't the game changer he was. He had great ideas, he changed the direction of the Republican party, now he needs to do what is best for the good of the country. If he truly loves America, he needs to step aside.
I love Trump. But this is about the future of the country and we can't afford another 4 years of left wing bullshite. Please Donald, make it about America and not you.
Why did DeWine win Ohio easily but Vance struggled? Why did Kemp win Georgia clearly but Walker struggles to get into a runoff? Trump isn't the game changer he was. He had great ideas, he changed the direction of the Republican party, now he needs to do what is best for the good of the country. If he truly loves America, he needs to step aside.
I love Trump. But this is about the future of the country and we can't afford another 4 years of left wing bullshite. Please Donald, make it about America and not you.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 7:50 am to dgnx6
Thank you. 100% correct. These guys think the national media won’t savagely attack Desantis? Just wait.
And then, after years of media assault, it’ll be “Desantis is in it for himself and he’s a cult”.
And then, after years of media assault, it’ll be “Desantis is in it for himself and he’s a cult”.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 7:51 am to LNCHBOX
Because that’s not how narcissists view the world.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 7:53 am to Stidham8
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Trump would be the deep state’s worst nightmare
Seems to me like they made his entire tenure a nightmare and now he's sitting on the sidelines where DeSantis just rolled in places that have been long established Dem strongholds yesterday.
If Republicans want a winner, they'll back DeSantis. Trump is a radioactive wasteland at this point. Hate to say it, but it's very obvious.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 7:54 am to Roger Klarvin
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Because that’s not how narcissists view the world.
Why would he ruin his legacy and reputation? Those are what would be most important to him. You can't make it work logically. He wasn't a career loser like Biden that needs the office to make him.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 7:54 am to ItNeverRains
It's not about policy and policy won't be the difference.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 7:55 am to ItNeverRains
Everything is setting up to hand the democrats the white house and both houses in 2024. If Trump wins the primary, never Trumpers won't vote and once again the democrats will make it a referendum on Trump and not really have to campaign on anything else. If DeSantis wins the primary, Trump will run as a 3rd option, or Trump supporters won't vote saying the system is rigged.
edit: democrats have had a horrible two years under Biden and republicans are just going to scrape by with majorities if they even can get any.
edit: democrats have had a horrible two years under Biden and republicans are just going to scrape by with majorities if they even can get any.
This post was edited on 11/9/22 at 7:56 am
Posted on 11/9/22 at 7:56 am to slackster
It's probably based on campaign donations.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 7:58 am to ibldprplgld
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Why are people acting as though Ron is GOPe? What is this based on?
Anyone who isn’t trump is deep state. I don’t know what these mouth breathers are going to do in 15 years when trump is dead. Write him in anyway?
Posted on 11/9/22 at 8:18 am to LNCHBOX
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Why would he ruin his legacy and reputation?
For the same reason a gambling addict keeps gambling.
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Those are what would be most important to him. You can't make it work logically.
It’s not logical, that’s the point. Personality disorders are effectively defined by a lack of logic and insight in certain aspects of your life. In his mind, he has been wronged and he WILL get the last word in.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 8:21 am to boogiewoogie1978
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Elections aren't won on policy
Most on the right have not figured this out yet. Maybe last night was the eye opener.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 8:25 am to Tiger985
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I think Desantis is great but I want him to be real MAGA and fight the Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnells of the world. And the Chinese and globalists.
He seems to be aligning with the wrong side.
Got proof he's aligning himself with the wrong side
Posted on 11/9/22 at 8:25 am to Roger Klarvin
The sweet spot appears to be the Trump lite candidates like DeSantis, Kemp, Youngkin, Abbot and perhaps Lake. They bring the Trump vibe without the baggage.
After seeing DeSantis' acceptance speech, I'm ready to move on from Trump.
After seeing DeSantis' acceptance speech, I'm ready to move on from Trump.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 8:32 am to ItNeverRains
Trump has no policy. Trump is purely a transactional type of guy. If it works for him personally he's for it. Problem with Trump is that he is not a team player with the side he needs. Going around and talking about your allies behind their back,like McConnell and even Ryan backing 2017 and 2018 does not engender fealty from others in your Party who have worked for much longer than he has in politics. Plus in this cycle he thought all he had to do was show up. He helped no one out with money or fundraising. He flew in gave a rant, basked in the glow of sycophantic adulation, then high tailed it out....in the case of Vance, he comes in dogs out Vance, endorses him and then leaves.
This post was edited on 11/9/22 at 8:34 am
Posted on 11/9/22 at 8:34 am to ItNeverRains
Ron does not pick figts with people who support him
Ron does not sit and blab nonsense for 1-2 hours every other night
Ron knows how to handle the media the correct way
A LOT of the issues Trump had was from him not shutting his mouth and doubling down on stupid, meaningless bullshite.
I am a big Trump fan but his gig is getting stale and burned out for me. Would I love him to be the next President? Absolutely but he needs to shut the frick up on some things
Ron does not sit and blab nonsense for 1-2 hours every other night
Ron knows how to handle the media the correct way
A LOT of the issues Trump had was from him not shutting his mouth and doubling down on stupid, meaningless bullshite.
I am a big Trump fan but his gig is getting stale and burned out for me. Would I love him to be the next President? Absolutely but he needs to shut the frick up on some things
Posted on 11/9/22 at 8:37 am to ItNeverRains
Ron DeSantis will essentially be a W clone and will have us in 3 wars within his first term. He'll control a Republican party that will do nothing but at least the Republicans will be able to say "hey - we won!"
I'll have to move my kids up to Canada to keep them from eventually being IED fodder.
I'll have to move my kids up to Canada to keep them from eventually being IED fodder.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 8:37 am to Wtodd
I still don't get this hate for McConnell. Mutha Fukka got him 3 Supreme Court justices and kept the discipline through 2 impeachments....the last of which he could have easily walked to 1600 and told him he was on his own.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 8:40 am to ItNeverRains
Been saying it for months and people are probably tired of reading it but the major policy differences between Trump and Ron will be on issues of borders, trade and war.
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