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re: What are Mary Fanning’s credentials and where did she get her data?
Posted on 2/6/21 at 9:36 pm to VoxDawg
Posted on 2/6/21 at 9:36 pm to VoxDawg
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If an investigative journalist as it were has the data, then someone who can do something about it gave it to her.
Somebody who can do something about it...but who has already chosen not to do something about it?
Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:13 pm to Wednesday
IPs are easily masked by VPN, etc. Mary Fanning and Lindell have been told this and continue to peddle this shite because they know most people listening are ignorant to how the internet works.
This post was edited on 2/6/21 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:14 pm to AlwysATgr
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Remove is too lenient, jus' sayin'.
Depends on what your definition of "remove" is.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:21 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
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So you're saying that since they stole the election, even if fraud is proven, the best we can do is Nancy Pelosi as president through the powers of succession? No wonder the fraud was worth it to the dims.
If Nancy was involved in the steal...that's a game changer.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:38 pm to moneyg
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If Mary Fanning's information was accurate, the Military has already failed (perhaps intentionally) to do their job.
I guess you're right.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:39 pm to Southcoast
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Can the IP addresses really be traced? Does use of a VPN mask the true location? Doesn't seem like China or Iran would use something that shows the true location from where they are accessing the voting machines or tabulators.
Yes and No
Some VPNs do effectively mask the originating IP address. The IP address shown would be the IP of the VPN server. (possibly/probably in the same country)
Some VPNs are not effective at hiding your IP and it can be easily discovered.
Professionals can determine who ( what IP) was using the VPN server regardless.
If you were trying to hide your identity, would you risk using an VPN overseas? Your transmission could easily be intercepted by a man in the middle attack, and the encryption would eventually be broken.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 11:26 pm to LSUbest
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You expect that someone would be making a real-time video of the data in a computer?
Absolutely yes. How else would they convince anyone? We wouldn’t be right here right now had video evidence been presented.
As it stands now, it’s mere conjecture and fancy graphs which don’t mean shite to judges and standing. Not to mention several judges didn’t want to involve themselves so they kicked the can down the road - see Texas VS PA/GA/AZ case. It’s F’ing infuriating
Posted on 2/6/21 at 11:32 pm to idlewatcher
Come on now, watcher. Video of OJ murdering his ex-wife would've been nice too. Those expectations might be set a tad unrealistically.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 11:46 pm to Topisawtiger
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But is there anything in the constitution that prohibits a court from removing them is the bigger question. I don't think so.
Precedent... fraud vitriates...it's been ruled before
Posted on 2/7/21 at 12:28 am to Wednesday
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If both these assholes are impeached we’re stuck with Nancy until there can be another election.
Maybe not. I can't conceive of a situation where the Ds pulled off this scale of fraud in multiple states without Nancy being in on it too. We are talking about treason at the highest levels of our government. They can not keep this covered up and a whole bunch of people are going to be really, really mad.
Posted on 2/7/21 at 12:42 am to idlewatcher
Think about what you're saying for a minute, can you video the files being placed in and deleted from your own cache right now? Can you video the files being placed in and deleted from my cache right now?
Posted on 2/7/21 at 12:54 am to idlewatcher
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We wouldn’t be right here right now had video evidence been presented.
As it stands now, it’s mere conjecture and fancy graphs which don’t mean shite to judges and standing.
The evidence is on the computers in the form of log files and in the firmware of the voting and counting machines. Without a court order, that evidence can not be examined. The only way to get the court order is to present what is available - fuzzy video and affidavits, and get the judge to rule there is enough cause to warrant examination of the equipment. My fear is that equipment has been replaced, hard drives wiped or shredded, and firmware updated.
Posted on 2/7/21 at 1:36 am to jfootball14
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IPs are easily masked by VPN, etc. Mary Fanning and Lindell have been told this and continue to peddle this shite because they know most people listening are ignorant to how the internet works.
Projection. You guys got anything else but it?
Posted on 2/7/21 at 4:04 pm to jfootball14
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Mary Fanning and Lindell have been told this and continue to peddle this
How do you know what they've (supposedly) been told?
Posted on 2/7/21 at 5:38 pm to idlewatcher
There is video of votes changing - I saw it.. You may be able to search and find it - probably not on google - may Duck Duck go
Posted on 2/13/21 at 2:32 pm to Wednesday
Want Proof - Read the Board of Election Meeting Minutes ... (Philly, Allegheny-Pittsburgh, Bucks, Chester, Centre-PSU, Delaware and Montgomery) from PA. Verify these are the big Dem counties using election results. Use the BOE minutes to verify these counties had almost 600 combined days of "Temporary Satellite Election Offices" which are really early voting sites. Verify 0 for the rest of the state.
Don't just take my word. Read the BOE minutes or the report at LINK
Don't just take my word. Read the BOE minutes or the report at LINK
Posted on 2/13/21 at 2:36 pm to Wednesday
I 100% agree with your comments. If you can't DOCUMENT your "proof" why present it? Who is going to believe it?
The entire Lindell video needs to be re-done. For example, the numbers in the first few minutes of various improprieties NEEDS to be FULLY explained if anyone's mind is going to be changed. (The Antrium Report is better but Mike FAILS to provide a link - Don't make users guess how to spell someone's name!)
I can't say that Mike's proof is WRONG but I can't say it's RIGHT either. Come On Mike - You can do better.
The entire Lindell video needs to be re-done. For example, the numbers in the first few minutes of various improprieties NEEDS to be FULLY explained if anyone's mind is going to be changed. (The Antrium Report is better but Mike FAILS to provide a link - Don't make users guess how to spell someone's name!)
I can't say that Mike's proof is WRONG but I can't say it's RIGHT either. Come On Mike - You can do better.
Posted on 2/13/21 at 3:01 pm to GhostOfFreedom
I didn't agree with Raffensburger recording or releasing the phone call but ....
in terms of GA, it was a long-standing loophole in state law that allowed CTCL (Zuckerburg) to rig the system by establishing many dozen "Early Voting" sites in Dem strongholds. Don't take my word, read the BOE minutes for GA (you have work to do, GA has about 156 counties).
in terms of GA, it was a long-standing loophole in state law that allowed CTCL (Zuckerburg) to rig the system by establishing many dozen "Early Voting" sites in Dem strongholds. Don't take my word, read the BOE minutes for GA (you have work to do, GA has about 156 counties).
Posted on 2/15/21 at 1:35 pm to Wednesday
Mary Fanning is a far right political author specializing in the wildest, most intellectually bankrupt conspiracy theories, primarily on the website The American Report.org. There is absolutely no evidence that she has any specialized knowledge or background in information technology, computer programming or has worked for any government intelligence agency. Nonetheless, she has been writing about the “Hammer and Scorecard” conspiracy and the alleged involvement of the con man Dennis Montgomery in providing this bogus capability to the CIA as far back as 2017 on the aforementioned website.
I don’t believe Mike Lindell is lying. I believe he and so many conservative followers of President Trump are being played for fools. It literally breaks my heart. Conservatives are understandably outraged when they are lied to by Democrat liberals. But they don’t seem to think that it’s possible they might be deceived by others in their own party. But that is clearly what has happened.
You simply cannot electronically STEAL votes on the magnitude that Fanning’s spreadsheet suggests. The reason is because the alleged electronic fraud altering the vote tally in numerous, multi-state counties and individual precincts ONLY CHANGES THE NUMBERS ON A VIRTUAL TELEVISED SCOREBOARD THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NO RELATIONSHIP TO THE BALLOTS THAT WERE ACTUALLY CAST AND WHICH PHYSICALLY REPRESENT THE TRUE VOTE TOTALS IN THE ELECTION.
The actual ballots in Arizona, Michigan, and Wisconsin were MARKED BY HAND. NO MACHINE WAS INVOLVED IN SELECTING AND MARKING BALLOTS FOR ANY CANDIDATE!! That was also true in the vast majority of counties in Pennsylvania, although in Philadelphia and all of Georgia candidate selection was made by a ballot marking device, which produced a paper ballot that the voter could inspect for accuracy before submitting to a machine tabulator for counting.
The point is simply this: If Trump won the election by 85 MILLION VOTES, AS LINDELL BELIEVES, THEN THOSE 85 MILLION PAPER BALLOTS ARE SITTING IN STORAGE IN VARIOUS WAREHOUSES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. The absolute proof would be to hand count them. They did that in Georgia. All 5,000,000 ballots. But die hard conservatives refuse to believe that the recount itself was not a conspiracy. And regardless of how many of those Georgia ballots were FRAUDULENT BALLOTS, conservatives are missing the extremely relevant point that the MACHINES ACCURATELY COUNTED THE PHYSICAL BALLOTS THEMSELVES. That’s all machines can do. And when it is proven that they have done THAT, then it was ALSO PROVEN THAT THOSE SAME MACHINES WERE NOT TAMPERED WITH OVER THE INTERNET.
Believing otherwise would be like believing Ohio State beat Alabama 52-24 for the National Championship solely on the basis of an allegedly hacked scoreboard and in direct contradiction to the number of times the ball crossed a specific goal line and who carried it over. And why would a FOREIGN criminal conspirator try to pull off such a stupid idea when the real proof of what happened – the HAND MARKED PAPER BALLOTS – were readily available? Could that foreign conspirator reasonably count on the illegal cooperation of every state election commission in the United States??? Does that theory make the slightest bit of sense?
GET IT???
I don’t believe Mike Lindell is lying. I believe he and so many conservative followers of President Trump are being played for fools. It literally breaks my heart. Conservatives are understandably outraged when they are lied to by Democrat liberals. But they don’t seem to think that it’s possible they might be deceived by others in their own party. But that is clearly what has happened.
You simply cannot electronically STEAL votes on the magnitude that Fanning’s spreadsheet suggests. The reason is because the alleged electronic fraud altering the vote tally in numerous, multi-state counties and individual precincts ONLY CHANGES THE NUMBERS ON A VIRTUAL TELEVISED SCOREBOARD THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NO RELATIONSHIP TO THE BALLOTS THAT WERE ACTUALLY CAST AND WHICH PHYSICALLY REPRESENT THE TRUE VOTE TOTALS IN THE ELECTION.
The actual ballots in Arizona, Michigan, and Wisconsin were MARKED BY HAND. NO MACHINE WAS INVOLVED IN SELECTING AND MARKING BALLOTS FOR ANY CANDIDATE!! That was also true in the vast majority of counties in Pennsylvania, although in Philadelphia and all of Georgia candidate selection was made by a ballot marking device, which produced a paper ballot that the voter could inspect for accuracy before submitting to a machine tabulator for counting.
The point is simply this: If Trump won the election by 85 MILLION VOTES, AS LINDELL BELIEVES, THEN THOSE 85 MILLION PAPER BALLOTS ARE SITTING IN STORAGE IN VARIOUS WAREHOUSES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. The absolute proof would be to hand count them. They did that in Georgia. All 5,000,000 ballots. But die hard conservatives refuse to believe that the recount itself was not a conspiracy. And regardless of how many of those Georgia ballots were FRAUDULENT BALLOTS, conservatives are missing the extremely relevant point that the MACHINES ACCURATELY COUNTED THE PHYSICAL BALLOTS THEMSELVES. That’s all machines can do. And when it is proven that they have done THAT, then it was ALSO PROVEN THAT THOSE SAME MACHINES WERE NOT TAMPERED WITH OVER THE INTERNET.
Believing otherwise would be like believing Ohio State beat Alabama 52-24 for the National Championship solely on the basis of an allegedly hacked scoreboard and in direct contradiction to the number of times the ball crossed a specific goal line and who carried it over. And why would a FOREIGN criminal conspirator try to pull off such a stupid idea when the real proof of what happened – the HAND MARKED PAPER BALLOTS – were readily available? Could that foreign conspirator reasonably count on the illegal cooperation of every state election commission in the United States??? Does that theory make the slightest bit of sense?
GET IT???
Posted on 2/15/21 at 1:49 pm to LarryK
Gee whiz I wonder who are all of these organic, spontaneous, and credible posters who are coming out of the woodwork joining the forum for the first time?
Shills?
Shills?
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