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Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:30 pm to TigerBlood17
Only MAGA would believe that causing financial hardship on your own citizens on purpose is putting America First.
Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:38 pm to Yaboylsu63
This is awesome; if true:
Source; Axios
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The U.S. and Iran are negotiating over a three-page plan to end the war, with one element under discussion being that the U.S. would release $20 billion in frozen Iranian funds in return for Iran giving up its stockpile of enriched uranium, according to two U.S. officials and two additional sources briefed on the talks.
Source; Axios
Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:40 pm to crazyLSUstudent
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Until the time Iran is capable of closing it, stfu!
They just demonstrated they have the ability to close it…
Silliness..... really???
But now it's open!!!
Obviously, Iran doesn't have the ability to keep it closed!
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:41 pm to Yaboylsu63
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If you think this won’t pay dividends with China, Russia, and India you are being naive and mistaken. We now have so much more leverage with our biggest enemies by taking out their a-hole enforcer.
So let me get this straight. Iran is China and Russia’s “enforcer”?? Wow.
Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:42 pm to crazyLSUstudent
That seems to be the Pape theory.
Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:49 pm to ReauxlTide222
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t this time, everyone is making sure Trump owns its closing. Even our old allies. Nobody is going to skip over Trump to give Iran hell for closing it.
In 7 months? When we’re gone?
Who the shite do you think is going to take the blame? Iran will be on an island and won’t have the cover of the whole world being gay af and blaming Trump.
Seriously, what do you think the fallout will be if Iran closes it in 2 years?
I mean isnt the goal of the deathcult hardline wing of the IGRC ultimate goal to set the conditions so that the Shi"ites face the ultimate persecution that brings the 12th Imam back? Hence why they can never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon. So if they cant get a nuke, perhaps they try another way. Who knows who or what the mindset of the Iranian power brokers will be in future. For better or worse we have totally destabilized the leader ship and could end up with foks that are even more hardlined that dont give a frick about "the fallout" and actually welcome it.
Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:49 pm to Yaboylsu63
Whatever political side one comes from one must have seen the United Arabic States response to the vicious attack by the US upon Iran. Right?
This is a reaction not seen since 1947.
None.
They want the mullahs gone.
This is a reaction not seen since 1947.
None.
They want the mullahs gone.
Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:59 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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What exactly has all this goodwill from the last 80 years of military protection and imbalanced trade deals with our "allies" given us?
I mean if you want to zoom out you could say all of humanity surviving the cold war was a benefit and NATO played its role. Having those bases allows us with a substantial amount of force projection abilities but its arguable whether that been put to good use. With reference to the gulf states the petro dollar agreement has certainly played a role in propping up our economy.
Posted on 4/17/26 at 3:15 pm to ThuperThumpin
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So if they cant get a nuke, perhaps they try another way. Who knows who or what the mindset of the Iranian power brokers will be in future. For better or worse we have totally destabilized the leader ship and could end up with foks that are even more hardlined that dont give a frick about "the fallout" and actually welcome it.
But that just validates anyone saying frick Iran and that these leaders can’t remain in place.
If Iran starts fricking with EVERYONE and throwing fits and lobbing missiles and closing straights in the future, Trump wins.
Posted on 4/17/26 at 3:23 pm to Yaboylsu63
So buy into the market while oil is at a low, and then wait for it to go up again and sell. Instant profit. This isn't remotely over so might as well take advantage.
Posted on 4/17/26 at 3:24 pm to lake chuck fan
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Obviously, Iran doesn't have the ability to keep it closed!
since when?
Posted on 4/17/26 at 3:30 pm to Yaboylsu63
I would like to see some continued blasting and demolition of Iran.
Posted on 4/17/26 at 3:34 pm to Yaboylsu63
The US just grabbed back so much world power, exposed "allies" that we can't depend on and ones we can, but also did the same for rival countries. We're reshaping no only oil, but global trade.
Posted on 4/17/26 at 3:41 pm to ReauxlTide222
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But that just validates anyone saying frick Iran and that these leaders can’t remain in place.
If Iran starts fricking with EVERYONE and throwing fits and lobbing missiles and closing straights in the future, Trump wins.
If Trump set up the conditions for a MORE hardline regime to take over, and that is being suggested that could be the direction Iran goes, then Im sure some folks will lay the blame of future hostilities on him. The fact is this situation will never be fully settled unless a coalition commits to full on total war and occupation of Iran with closely guided regime change or some how the Iranians clean up their own house. Neither of those two things are likely going to happen and we will likely have to "mow the grass" again in another 5-10 years.
Posted on 4/17/26 at 3:43 pm to BrianKellysbuyout
Posted on 4/17/26 at 3:46 pm to BrianKellysbuyout
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"allies" that we can't depend on and ones we can
Which allies did this expose that we can depend on? and how did it re-shape global trade or oil? besides Venezuela which is a nice catch.
Posted on 4/17/26 at 4:17 pm to ThuperThumpin
Venezuela was the main one so far, but this isn't done yet as far as trade.
Posted on 4/17/26 at 4:19 pm to rwestmore7
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Only MAGA would believe that causing financial hardship on your own citizens on purpose is putting America First.
Hey dumbass, if this has caused you "financial hardships", that signals that YOU are a fricking moron. I could hire you to help me count my money so maybe you can make ends meet
Posted on 4/17/26 at 4:23 pm to Yaboylsu63
Israel and Hezbollah have been bombing each other since 1982 when Hezbollah was founded in Lebanon 3 years after the coup in Iran. We were supplying Iran with weapons until 1987. In the Gulf War in 1990 Iran help the US against Iraq, but Hezbollah was still fighting Israel from Iran. To say we have been fighting with Iran for almost 50 years is wrong. In the 80’s and early 90’s Reagan and Bush had working relationship with Iran.
In the early 2000’s Iran helped overthrow the Taliban. Iran didn’t want the Taliban in their country.
We didn’t really start to have problems with Iran until they started a Nuclear program. Bush, Obama, Biden, and Trump have did a terrible job working with Iran. We should have kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon and Iran instead of invading Iraq.
In the early 2000’s Iran helped overthrow the Taliban. Iran didn’t want the Taliban in their country.
We didn’t really start to have problems with Iran until they started a Nuclear program. Bush, Obama, Biden, and Trump have did a terrible job working with Iran. We should have kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon and Iran instead of invading Iraq.
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