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re: “We’re going to pay off...the $35 trillion in debt. We’re going to pay it off...fast too.

Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:16 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:16 am to
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Not if you bring home manufacturing and lower costs.


Bringing home mfg raises costs for americans.

We dont manufacture rubber dog shite because its we cant do it nearly as efficiently as other nations, who pay lower wages.

Our economy moved to tech, it looks like MAGAphiles just didnt evolve.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110963 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:18 am to
Rubber dog shite used to be the punch line when we were still able to make actually important stuff.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9785 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:19 am to
So your take is frick American workers and impose no tariffs on products made by slaves in China?

And you think this is a positive for Americans?

Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28172 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:24 am to
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He was doing pretty good before the global pandemic



He was very similar to Obama in deficit/GDP, even leaving out 2020 and 2021.

And he wanted to spend more those years and Nancy wouldn't let him.
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:33 am to
Really now? Not sure I agree. However, using your numbers that only half have crossed the southern border. That is 3.5 Million and each of them have received roughly 10K in benefits (likely more). That is 35 Billion in tax dollars going to the 3.5 million illegals. Spending the 8 Billion would have saved the American Tax Payer 27 Billion dollars.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39710 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:34 am to
An innate weakness of the Hamiltonian (Trump) 'tariff' MO is that many of our workers are psychologically unable to show up for any given amount of time; or for that matter to even believe they are morally and practically required to given the Marxist 'oppression/inequality' propaganda. Once people are become accustomed to living on the dole it's hard to drop that without serious blowback by the gas lighting (Marxist) MSM.

Many people are like Jack Nicholson's Character when he said "you people can't handle the truth...", and the sad reality of today's culture is that the many that can't handle Freedom outnumber those that can and do.

They say "you can't legislate morality". The forces which shape our future will likely be less based on politically motivated and implemented policy and more about street level conflict. "The Fourth Turning" as it were. What else is new.
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:35 am to
An OldUrine fan ridiculing someone else's intelligence. That is PRICELESS.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:37 am to
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Really now? Not sure I agree.


Its been the case forever. Stop believing low IQ populist drivel.

quote:

Two-thirds of those who joined the undocumented population did so by entering with a valid visa and then overstaying their period of admission123. Overstays have exceeded those entering illegally every year since 2007, and there have been half a million more overstays than illegal entries since 2007. In 2014, overstays accounted for 66% of new entries into the U.S.2. In 2017, there were more than 30 overstays for every border apprehension for countries outside of Mexico and Central America4
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:38 am to
The problem I see is that millions of people between 18 and 65 and otherwise able to work are not working and they are still eating.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:39 am to
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So your take is frick American workers


No, thats Trumps take.

Tariffs dont help American workers. They help American corporations.

The working man loses purchasing power and inflation overwhelms wages.

You people follow shitty leaders and believe things that are in fact wrong. Tariffs help woke corporations and hurt the working man.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28172 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:39 am to
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And you think this is a positive for Americans?


Yes, it means lower prices. If you want to, you can be typing on a computer keyboard made in the US.

I'm guessing you're not. You're not wearing US made shoes or clothes either.
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
9533 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:40 am to
If I go to his website will I see an actual action plan or ideas on what he is going to attempt?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28172 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:41 am to
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The problem I see is that millions of people between 18 and 65 and otherwise able to work are not working and they are still eating.


Correct. Most people don't care if they're poor, they care about being uncomfortable and not having material things. Our poor largely don't have to worry about that, so they're content to stay where they are.
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:46 am to
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Stop believing low IQ populist drivel

My guess is that YOU are one of them thar "high IQ" folks. You don't seem to lack any confidence in yourself. Just looking at the numbers of monthly illegal crossings, I'm seeing 200-300 thousand illegal crossing every month. I'm probwably not nerwey as smart as you. However my math comes to 3 Million a year, and that's just the ones they know about.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63497 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:47 am to
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“We’re going to pay off...the $35 trillion in debt. We’re going to pay it off...fast too.
More full of isht than a thanksgiving turkey.
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:49 am to
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More full of isht than a thanksgiving turkey.
More than joe biden?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63497 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:50 am to
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He was doing pretty good before the global pandemic

He was about inline with the 2013 ish CBO projections. We paid off no debt.
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
9533 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:51 am to
Biden is a Jive arse Turkey, not a Thanksgiving Turkey.
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:53 am to
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Biden is a Jive arse Turkey
True, but he's still full of dung.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63497 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:53 am to
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More than joe biden?
Muh whataboutism. No matter how full of isht Biden is, it won’t diminish the amount Trump is also full of isht.

Sorry, nothing is going to rehabilitate the stupidity of that claim. The only way it’s going to happen is with deep cuts to SS and MEDI, or massive (doubling or tripling) tax rates.

And no congress is doing that. Hell a few weeks ago Trump was against ANY changes to them.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 8:56 am
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