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re: We know the names of the passengers, crew and 2 of the 3 in the helicopter.

Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
4243 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:43 pm to
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My guess is we aren’t and the family simply said “no, you can’t release it early.”


Fox News reported the family requested this and out of respect the media is not releasing his name.
Posted by LSUFAITHFUL2
Member since Feb 2024
151 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:47 pm to
The name of the pilot is public record.

Media should do a FOIA request.

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How are Soldiers' names released to the media? Can family members have a Soldier's name withheld from the media? Once required Next Of Kin (NOK) notifications have been completed, the Army Human Resources Command Public Affairs Office will release the information to the Army's Office of Chief of Public Affairs (OCPA) (703-697-7550). OCPA releases to Office of Secretary of Defense Public Affairs and the media. Although families may request their Soldier's name be withheld, it is a matter of public record and may be released without their permission.


I’m sorry, if your actions kill 60+ civilians, your name must be released. The army may honor their request for now, but given it’s a public record, I don’t know that they can avoid a FOIA request.

LINK
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37364 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:47 pm to
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WTF is going on?

Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37364 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:48 pm to
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The army may honor their request for now, but given it’s a public record, I don’t know that they can avoid a FOIA request.

FOIA is a joke, but the name will come out. Just not right this second.
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
3195 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:52 pm to
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We're over the 24...the Army decided to make an exception today which is insane. Does nothing but feed all the conspiracy theories.


Gotcha. I agree it feeds the monster, but I don’t have an issue with it if it turns out there’s good reason.

Yes, the public 100% has a right to know, but nobody has to know right f’n now if there’s good reason to hold off.

What’s important is the appropriate people know. I’ll consider the general public in that group after a few days.

ETA: if DUSTWUN status is a 10-day window, then it sounds like the family is holding firm and when the body is recovered, DUSTWUN will be changed and the name will be released. That could be in 9 minutes or 9 days.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 3:56 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41748 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:54 pm to
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Fox News reported the family requested this and out of respect the media is not releasing his name.


His or her?
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7970 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 4:07 pm to
https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/faces-american-airlines-plane-crash-944003

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All the faces of American Airlines plane crash including TikTok star, famous athlete couple and kids
All 64 passengers on board the fatal American Airlines flight have been named and pictured, including children and their mothers.


100% -1

All 64 plane passengers and crew, 2 of 3 Blackhawk crew. With pictures. Adults and Children.

There is zero reason not to release the last name.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 4:08 pm
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
4243 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 4:12 pm to
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His or her?


Or her name, not sure that it matters at this point unless their identity remains hidden for a significant amount of time.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 4:28 pm
Posted by GreenJay
Member since Aug 2023
315 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 4:12 pm to
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Fox News reported the family requested this and out of respect the media is not releasing his name.


...and this is all that matters
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
4612 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 4:13 pm to
I think I just heard Steve bannon say the army was refusing to release the name of the pilot.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
11027 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 4:14 pm to
guessing that pilot was undergoing remedial training for some ugly deficiencies that the army mis-managed
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7970 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 4:21 pm to
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Fox News reported the family requested this and out of respect the media is not releasing his name


We have been through this before, when shooters names finally get releases their social media history is burned with fire.
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 4:21 pm to
its almost certainly a woman of colour bc no one else would be treated with such kid gloves
Posted by DrrTiger
Gulf of America
Member since Nov 2023
2544 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 4:25 pm to
The ONLY reason the third name is being withheld is because it is going to make the pilot and/or the Army look bad. They want it to disappear from public interest and then announce it when interest dies down. But delaying will only bring more attention to it and further speculation about what they’re hiding.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115489 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 4:26 pm to
His/her name will be in the NTSB report.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
44949 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 4:29 pm to
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a woman of colour


I really doubt she’s British.
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
26413 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 4:33 pm to
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His/her name will be in the NTSB report.


No it will not. The NTSB does not list the names of those killed or injured in their Prelim or Final reports. That information is released by other agencies.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
20028 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 4:42 pm to
This has to be released ASAP. Remember this administration is supposed to be "transparent"?
Posted by salty1
Member since Jun 2015
5170 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 4:42 pm to
Maybe it’s an islamic name?
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
3227 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 4:48 pm to
Ok just what the hell is going on here. They won't release the name of the supposed female pilot on the Army helicopter and now one of the Army guys is clearly wearing a sailor uniform in his wedding photo. Are you all really not seeing how odd this whole thing is?

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