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re: We are one Supreme Court justice away from having our gun rights stripped
Posted on 4/13/14 at 9:24 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 4/13/14 at 9:24 am to RollTide1987
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"well, the law was designed 230 years ago and is out of date."
quote:The abolition of slavery is 150 years old, maybe it too should go.
If they want to make that argument then, why not attack the 1st Amendment as well?
This post was edited on 4/13/14 at 9:25 am
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 9:36 am to Homesick Tiger
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Our government militia can't even have weapons on their person while on base.
Heard on tv news this morning that this was mandated during the Clinton years. No doubt the only projectile he feels safe with is the one coming out the end of his pecker.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 9:40 am to Layabout
quote:Wow. Just wow. That's sick.
Isn't that interesting. I pray that one of them does.
Though I disagree with many of the views those on the left hold, I don't wish personal harm upon any of them. Not even Harry Reid.
The mark of a civilized society is we can battle on the ideas not the person. it seems civilization has left a few stragglers behind.
This post was edited on 4/13/14 at 9:45 am
Posted on 4/13/14 at 10:25 am to Taxing Authority
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Wow. Just wow. That's sick. Though I disagree with many of the views those on the left hold, I don't wish personal harm upon any of them. Not even Harry Reid. The mark of a civilized society is we can battle on the ideas not the person. it seems civilization has left a few stragglers behind.
This is the same poster who, in another thread, said Louis Gohmert needed killing.
He's a sick frick.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:21 am to goldennugget
Nonense.
You may be one Supreme Court justice away from giving the legislature the authority to strip SOME gun rights. But that will go state by state, city by city,a concept the right loves when it comes to any part of the Bill of Rights other than the 2nd amendment.
The seminal Supreme court opinion on gun rights was a ridiculously activist opinion anyway and should be overturned.
You may be one Supreme Court justice away from giving the legislature the authority to strip SOME gun rights. But that will go state by state, city by city,a concept the right loves when it comes to any part of the Bill of Rights other than the 2nd amendment.
The seminal Supreme court opinion on gun rights was a ridiculously activist opinion anyway and should be overturned.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 12:09 pm to goldennugget
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We are one Supreme Court justice away from having our gun rights stripped
No, we are not. The issue is as close to settled in the favor of the republicans/the right as any issue I can think of. Just look at the Sandy Hook aftermath and how horribly wrong the predictions were about what would happen. If the dems can't ramrod through something in that environment, then they basically never will be able to.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 12:14 pm to Roger Klarvin
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No, but I also know that the fact that most of them were bat shite crazy (at best, insanely deluded) played a significant role. First, opening fire on federal agents with kids in the building was their choice. Second, they intentionally started the fire that ultimately killed everyone. Third, they were in fact breaking multiple laws...precisely because they were an overzealous movement led by a madman. They were illegally obtaining weapons, molesting
children, abusing women, etc. Many of the dead, including most of the children, were killed not by the FBI or the fire but forced or willful ingestion of cyanide.
Are you stupid or are you willfully being an a-hole? The Govt. murdered every man, woman and child in that compound.
How anyone could ever try to use the molesting and abusing excuse is beyond me. I guess since they were being molested it was ok to kill them all.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 1:23 pm to Asharad
Im anything but a liberal and love my guns. 
Posted on 4/13/14 at 1:42 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:I agree with every bit of your post.
First, opening fire on federal agents with kids in the building was their choice. Second, they intentionally started the fire that ultimately killed everyone. Third, they were in fact breaking multiple laws...precisely because they were an overzealous movement led by a madman. They were illegally obtaining weapons, molesting children, abusing women, etc. Many of the dead, including most of the children, were killed not by the FBI or the fire but forced or willful ingestion of cyanide.
Occurrence of mass casualties was also a VERY PREDICTABLE possibility given the tack taken by the Feds. They knew that.
In a situation where you need to detain, question and/or arrest a nutcase like Koresh who is accumulating an arsenal while developing a mass suicide structure, you find a way to catch him outside the compound. If Koresh doesn't present that opportunity, you lure him out. Choosing to attack him in his compound = near criminal stupidity.
BLM actions in the Bundy case had much the same flavor.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 1:59 pm to NC_Tigah
I agree that the situation could have been handled better, but in the end if Koresh had never done the things he did none of it would have happened. I think blaming law enforcement for the deaths really takes away from the fact that the root of the problem was the movement itself. Handled poorly? Sure.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 2:44 pm to PrimeTime Money
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Couldn't the governor of a state just say "everybody who lives in this state is now a "militia" member.
In Virginia by law every man between the ages of 16 and 60 is in the militia and can be called at the discretion of the governor.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 2:55 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:Kind of like saying if the Kent St. protesters hadn't protested, then 4 innocent kids wouldn't have died. So the "4 Dead in Ohio" was really not the fault of ridiculous Government action.
I agree that the situation could have been handled better, but in the end if Koresh had never done the things he did none of it would have happened. I think blaming law enforcement for the deaths really takes away from the fact that the root of the problem was the movement itself.
In the case of 8 Los Angeles police officers unloading a hail of more than 100 bullets on two unsuspecting women delivering newspapers, it's kind of like blaming Christopher Dorner for their actions. If Dorner would not have killed a couple of Cops and a cop's daughter, the two ladies would not have been shot.
If there is a way to peaceably accomplish an end, and the government instead chooses methods likely to result in casualties, the government must assume blame.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 2:58 pm to NC_Tigah
Not really fair comparisons, given that college students protesting is neither anywhere near the level of the Davidians actions nor worthy of deadly force.
Your second example is just absurd.
Your second example is just absurd.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 10:30 pm to HubbaBubba
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A fun fact even more interesting: a lib that prays.
But you don't know to whom I pray. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 10:52 pm to goldennugget
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We are one Supreme Court justice away from having our gun rights stripped
And you won't do a damn thing about it.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 10:59 pm to SpidermanTUba
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And you won't do a damn thing about it.
Was this supposed to mean something ?
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