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re: Washington State Supreme Court rules that the Bar Exam is racist and no longer required.

Posted on 3/18/24 at 1:58 pm to
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81818 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 1:58 pm to
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The Bar Licensure Task Force found that the traditional exam “disproportionally and unnecessarily blocks” marginalized groups from becoming practicing attorneys


Esquires of Colour
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99057 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:00 pm to
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No bar exam requirement may result in no malpractice insurance coverage, b/c no insurer is going to provide coverage under these circumstances.


Insurance companies are racist, get rid of them. The government will assist you if you need help. Trust the government.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17479 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:01 pm to
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105413 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:02 pm to
There are certain professions that need entrance exams. This is bullshite. It’s obvious plenty of incompetent people are still making it through, this will be much worse.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99057 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:03 pm to
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It should still be offered and then people can choose if they want an attorney who passed the bar to represent them or not.


Like a board certification in medicine you would have a bar certification.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25004 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:09 pm to
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Don’t see a problem there are lawyers here that are morons and still pass.


know what you call the guy that finishes at the bottom of his law class?

attorney.

Or Joe Biden.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67101 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:12 pm to
So, does this mean out of state lawyers could move there and practice without taking another bar exam? Because, if so, this would make Washington an even more attractive option for workers than it already is.
Posted by DrrTiger
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2023
351 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:12 pm to
I wished they’d just come out and say “listen, minorities are dumb as shite, ok?” instead of beating around the bush constantly.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34682 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:21 pm to
Esquires finna EAT!
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112664 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:22 pm to
Legal malpractice lawyers finna eat


I saw a recent federal court filing where an Esquire missed his deadline on a response to a 12b(8) motion because he “lost” the email. Federal judge dismissed. All well after the same attorney made a smear campaign through the media on the Defendants during time of filing.
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5713 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:22 pm to
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No bar exam requirement may result in no malpractice insurance coverage, b/c no insurer is going to provide coverage under these circumstances.


If idiots want to hire other idiots who have no malpractice insurance to represent them, who are we to stand in their way?
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
6953 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:36 pm to
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Washington State Supreme Court rules that the Bar Exam is racist and no longer required.
Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
2298 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:37 pm to
Bar exams are kind of irrelevant when it comes to measuring competency to practice law.

And, throughout history there have been other standards for ensuring competency, such as an apprenticeship, or graduating from an accredited law school.

Bar exams became mandatory I. The South after the accredited law schools were integrated, so in that way they were racist.

I haven't read the Washington opinion, but sounds like they are saying there should be other ways to measure competency.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13564 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:38 pm to
Sounds like a large influx of legal giants like Fanni is on the horizon.

Just wait till they start doing this with doctors and structural engineers.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260639 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:39 pm to
Evidently white people have too high of standards.

Thats what I am reading here.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112664 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:40 pm to
How are they irrelevant? explain.

Do you practice?
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12642 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:42 pm to
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The same outfit is going to be finding marginalized groups are disproportionately, negatively affected by ineffective assistance of counsel in about a decade


How depressing is it to watch what used to be somewhat ethical and righteous practice of law becoming the laughingstock that it is turning into?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37106 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 3:22 pm to
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Even passing the bar exam does nothing to rid "marginalized" groups of their ingrained culture of lying and embarrassing the court


That was my first thought.

quote:

is “at best minimally effective” for ensuring competency,


I mean, I'm not sure it's even minimally effective.

My solution would be to make it a lot harder, but I guess I'm a racist as well.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37106 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 3:26 pm to
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How are they irrelevant? explain.

Do you practice?


I can tell you the CPA exam is rather hard, and we still have PLENTY of incompetent CPAs out there.

It takes 5 years of experience, in my opinion, before a CPA is even marginally competent.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112664 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 3:31 pm to
No one has argued the bar is a fool proof way to cut morons out of the profession. It is a barrier for entry for people who cannot grasp the basic fundamentals of a number of basic practice areas. It is not asking you to master these areas - just enough to pass essay or multiple choice questions.

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