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re: Was the "animals" meme the most dishonest media moment of the Trump presidency?
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:58 am to ChineseBandit58
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:58 am to ChineseBandit58
quote:
THAT award goes to the 'Maybe the Russians can find them" joke he pulled during the campaign. There is no sentient person alive who could hear what he said and conclude that it was anything other than a joking jab at the HRC e-mail fiasco.
I actually agree with this.
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:58 am to ShortyRob
the irony of using birthirism is that it wasn't even a creation of the conservative arena
it was manufacture by HRC's campaign to hurt Obama. she just ran into a media apparatus at the time that wasn't fully committed to HRC
HRC wanted the "full court press" and there was resistance, so it stayed in the shadows, until Obama was elected and right wing whackos got ahold of it
it was manufacture by HRC's campaign to hurt Obama. she just ran into a media apparatus at the time that wasn't fully committed to HRC
HRC wanted the "full court press" and there was resistance, so it stayed in the shadows, until Obama was elected and right wing whackos got ahold of it
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:58 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:Meh.
No offense, but multiple posts laughing at this guy and treating him like an idiot probably is going to disincline him to engage with you .
He already doesn't want to provide an example of his claim.
I could kiss his arse for the next 10 pages and that ain't gonna change.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:00 am to ChineseBandit58
quote:
THAT award goes to the 'Maybe the Russians can find them" joke he pulled during the campaign
True.
No otherwise intelligent person could possibly see that video and conclude it was anything but humor.
They basically have played the "let's pretend we can't understand English" game for 2 years
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:00 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
the irony of using birthirism is that it wasn't even a creation of the conservative arena
it was manufacture by HRC's campaign to hurt Obama. she just ran into a media apparatus at the time that wasn't fully committed to HRC
DC knows this too.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:01 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Obama couldn’t take a shite in the morning without conservative media turning it in to some fake news conspiracy bullshite to fear monger the right.
It happened every single day and I gave you a website that catalogued it. But why would I want to spend 30 minutes curating 2 or 3 really good examples when I know y’all are going to find some kind of mental gymnastics to excuse it away?
Look Limey,
You are complaining about us deplorable who bitched and moaned about the things Obama got away with right under the noses of the MSM.
What is different is that during the Obama administration the entire MSM -with the exception of FNC - were devoted to the defense of BHO. NOTHING he did was examined critically. And when he did step on his dick so publicly they had to address it, they immediately made excuses for 'what he probably meant' - and swallowed any cleanup the BHO spokesman rolled out. Then they would berate anyone who challenged the bullshite explanation.
The MSM today is teh exact opposite, they go dumpster diving to find ANYTHING that can be interpreted in a way to harm Trump. There has NEVER been such a hostility toward a public official from the MSM in my lifetime, nor in any historical era I know of. There is not ONE instance of their failing to take the most asinine interpretations possible and run with it non-stop until the next invention emerges.
If you want to maintain any vestige of balance or logic, you have to agree that the MSM is in the tank for any prog/DEM ideological tenet and work day and night to advance it.
I believe FNC is similarly (but not equally) aligned with the conservative point of view. I take that into account on any 'breaking news' story they go with. I do not know of any instance of their purposely 'misinterpreting' the obvious facts of an event to the extent that the rest of the MSM does on a daily basis.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:01 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
the irony of using birthirism is that it wasn't even a creation of the conservative arena
it was manufacture by HRC's campaign to hurt Obama. she just ran into a media apparatus at the time that wasn't fully committed to HRC
HRC wanted the "full court press" and there was resistance, so it stayed in the shadows, until Obama was elected and right wing whackos got ahold of it
This is the truth. Hillary's team started the whole birther movement. It was probably Bill himself who suggested it , right after his now infamous "a few years ago that boy would have been serving us coffee" comment.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:02 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:
This is the truth. Hillary's team started the whole birther movement. It was probably Bill himself who suggested it , right after his now infamous "a few years ago that boy would have been serving us coffee" comment.
And now you know why I talk to DC in this thread as I do.
It isn't because I think he's an idiot. It's precisely because I know he is not.
Honestly, it would be better if I just thought he was a moron. At least then I wouldn't see him for what he really is.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:05 am to Draconian Sanctions
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I’m talking about the conservative outlets themselves. They knew it was a lie but pushed it anyway.
What Media outlet pushed the 'birther' movement. I watch FNC quite a bit, and I don't recall their 'using' it.
Are you again referring to message boards where anonymous doofuses can spew out nonsense and wisdom with equal abandon?
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:05 am to ShortyRob
I tell you what, I’ll do that but first tell me what your take is on conservative media pushing the PizzaGate and Seth Rich conspiracy theories.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:07 am to ChineseBandit58
quote:
What Media outlet pushed the 'birther' movement. I watch FNC quite a bit, and I don't recall their 'using' it.
Are you again referring to message boards where anonymous doofuses can spew out nonsense and wisdom with equal abandon?
Would you please ID what 'media outlet' you are talking about??
are you talking about talk radio??
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:07 am to Y.A. Tittle
They were pretty dishonest about Charlottesville too. And still get away with the dishonesty. People who watched events in real time know that The President was talking about people who were there BEFORE the buses started rolling in for the theatrical performance that resulted in tragedy. I guess he should have known better, but it's still disgusting and dishonest.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:07 am to SlowFlowPro
Poof. John McCain "is going to die anyway" just vanished.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:09 am to ChineseBandit58
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ChineseBandit58
Just because at this point, making fun of him is worth it, check this out from Media Matters.
Fox supposedly promoting birtherism
THIS is what DC compares to everyone all at once coordinating a lie and running it on their NEWS outlets.
quote:
Trump Told Unquestioning Fox & Friends Hosts, "I'm Starting To Wonder ... Whether Or Not [Obama] Was Born In This Country."
On March 28, 2011, Fox News’ Fox & Friends hosted Trump, who stated, "I'm starting to wonder myself whether or not he was born in this country." [Fox News, Fox & Friends, 3/28/11]
Fox Gave Trump Platform To Call Birthers "Great Americans."
During the March 28, 2011, edition of Fox News' On the Record, former host Greta Van Susteren hosted Trump, who used the platform to advance his birther conspiracy theories and praise those who indulge in them as "great Americans."
[Fox News, On The Record, 3/28/11] Fox & Friends Gave Trump A Weekly Segment Which He Repeatedly Used To Push Birther Conspiracy Theories.
In April 2011, amid Trump’s repeated claims that President Obama may not have been born in the U.S., Fox News gave Trump a weekly segment as a regular guest.
[CBSNews.com, 4/1/11; Media Matters, 4/3/11] Greta Van Susteren Gave Trump Free Reign To Repeat Birther Theories.
During the April 11, 2011, edition of Fox News’ On the Record, former host Greta Van Susteren gave Trump airtime to push his birther conspiracies and discuss his investigation in Hawaii into Obama's citizenship. [Fox News,
On the Record, 4/11/11] Sean Hannity Provided Platform For Trump’s Theories In Interview. During the April 15, 2011, edition of his show, Fox host Sean Hannity aired an interview in which he provided a platform for Trump's birther theories, including asking Trump what his investigators in Hawaii had found regarding Obama's birth. [Fox News, Hannity, 4/15/11] Steve Doocy Tells Trump Obama Could End Speculation By Just Showing Us His Birth Certificate. During an interview with Trump on the April 18, 2011, edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends, co-host Steve Doocy responded to Trump's claim that Obama "has not given a birth certificate" by saying, "He could end it simply, just show it to us, and it'd be over." [Fox News, Fox & Friends, 4/18/11] Fox Hosts, Analysts, And Contributors Have Pushed Birther Conspiracy T
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 10:10 am
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:10 am to Draconian Sanctions
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I tell you what, I’ll do that but first tell me what your take is on conservative media pushing the PizzaGate and Seth Rich conspiracy theories.
Dear Lord.............your level of dishonesty is incomprehensible.
Oh, and I already did it for you.
It was a hoot.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:11 am to ShortyRob
quote:
And now you know why I talk to DC in this thread as I do.
It isn't because I think he's an idiot. It's precisely because I know he is not.
Honestly, it would be better if I just thought he was a moron. At least then I wouldn't see him for what he really is.
This honestly bothers me too. The idiots, they can't be helped. But when I see otherwise smart people simply ignoring things because TRUMP I get so frustrated
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:14 am to ShortyRob
I’ve got 4 examples ready to go for you if you can just answer that question honestly
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:15 am to ShortyRob
a good example is this stupidity
but how much mainstream conservative press did this get?
i did a google search for "obama shadaha fox news" and didn't see any articles (there may be some, but i didn't do an academic scouring)
however, the leftist DEM-coordinated media has their own stupidity that HAS made wapo, cnn, et al
Newsweek
AOL
hell it's led to various anti-left outlets literally trolling the leftist media with an influx of symbols. that's why they've gained so much traction in the culture wars
but how much mainstream conservative press did this get?
i did a google search for "obama shadaha fox news" and didn't see any articles (there may be some, but i didn't do an academic scouring)
however, the leftist DEM-coordinated media has their own stupidity that HAS made wapo, cnn, et al
Newsweek
AOL
hell it's led to various anti-left outlets literally trolling the leftist media with an influx of symbols. that's why they've gained so much traction in the culture wars
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:15 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:
But when I see otherwise smart people simply ignoring things because TRUMP I get so frustrated
What am i ignoring?
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:16 am to ShortyRob
quote:
THIS is what DC compares to everyone all at once coordinating a lie and running it on their NEWS outlets.
Well now - I forgot about that. I early on would turn away from FNC when Trump came on. I never liked that man - and was never interested in anything he had to say.
Perhaps I should have paid more attention to him and maybe I would not have been so opposed to him during the early primary season.
I did a little research on the birth certificate and it appears to me to be a fake - especially considering all the effort BHO took in not releasing it. I had assumed he didnt was to reveal it because it might say "father unknown" or "father muslim" or something like that.
What was released had no information that should have warranted such an unprecedented effort to conceal it.
I eventually decided BHO wanted to create a ruckus and release it to capitalize on the 'birther idiocy.'
It still looks fake to me.
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