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re: Was the "animals" meme the most dishonest media moment of the Trump presidency?
Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:59 am to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:59 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:Still one of the most epic and hilarious examples of Rivalry pranks.
that Harvey Updyke poisoned the Toomers Trees
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:02 am to Draconian Sanctions
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I’m not running interference for anything
Yeah, you are.
quote:Nah. You just know this really turned out bad for your side so you want to see if you can dishonestly compare something not comparable.
I’m trying to have a larger conversation than this one incident which,
quote:What? Are you fricking honestly claiming to be unable to ascertain this yourself? Seriously? You're seriously going to claim their false portrayal of the quote is debatable?
if it is what y’all say it is
quote:That would literally result in the firing of the editorial staffs at CNN, MSNBC, AP, CBS, ABC, WP, NYT, and about 30 other outlets.
nd the people involved should be fired.
Yeah. That'll happen.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:04 am to Draconian Sanctions
It was/is sh!tty. This one is not hard Drac. Its not convoluted or murky. Very much a lie. Very in your face and very lazy by many others who parroted the story line.
Its shockingly brazen Drac and a terrible sign going forward that our democracy is in peril. A democracy will never last with a press acting like this and you know it as well.
Its shockingly brazen Drac and a terrible sign going forward that our democracy is in peril. A democracy will never last with a press acting like this and you know it as well.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:08 am to goatmilker
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goatmilker
Exactly. This wasn't reporting bad info. It wasn't even bias.
It was just straight up, "hey, we can cut off the beginning of this and tell people he meant some immigrants even though we flatly know he didn't say that".
This wasn't slanted coverage. It wasn't a willingness to believe false info. None of that.
It was a straight up calculated lie and since it appeared everywhere, it was clearly a COORDINATED lie to lie about what a man fricking SAID.
I hope every person involved is stricken with ebola.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:08 am to ShortyRob
All I got out of that is that in your mind it was okay when conservative media lies about Obama, which they did daily, but it’s not okay when liberal media lies about Trump.
This is why I can take y’all seriously. You don’t actually care about an honest media. You care about attacking your political opponents when they do something wrong and sweeping it under the rug when your allies do the same thing.
I’m on record that CNN deserves to be mocked and those who lie about Trump to push their agenda are a) doing more harm than good and b) should be fired
You’re the one equivocating and giving a pass to the media you like.
This is why I can take y’all seriously. You don’t actually care about an honest media. You care about attacking your political opponents when they do something wrong and sweeping it under the rug when your allies do the same thing.
I’m on record that CNN deserves to be mocked and those who lie about Trump to push their agenda are a) doing more harm than good and b) should be fired
You’re the one equivocating and giving a pass to the media you like.
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 9:09 am
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:09 am to Draconian Sanctions
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I’m not running interference for anything. I’m trying to have a larger conversation than this one incident which, if it is what y’all say it is (and I’m not saying it’s not) is shitty and the people involved should be fired.
"having a larger conversation" is liberal code for "we don't want to discuss this specific situation" why the frick can't you just say "the media obviously purposely misinterpreted Trump's statement" here go on? Oh that's right.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:10 am to ShortyRob
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It was just straight up, "hey, we can cut off the beginning of this and tell people he meant some immigrants even though we flatly know he didn't say that".
What's particularly dumbfounding is that these people are really still working under the idea of 'hey, watch, we can get away with this.'
At what point do they actually divorce themselves from such a fallacy? Ever?
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:12 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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why the frick can't you just say "the media obviously purposely misinterpreted Trump's statement"
I didn’t even hear about this until I came here his morning, and you’ll have to forgive me if I don’t take the poli boards interpretation of something as gospel straight out. But I’ve already said several times that to the extent it’s true it’s a problem.
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 9:16 am
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:13 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:It's 2018 man. No one expects you to take our interpretation.
I didn’t even hear about this until I Carmen here his morning, and you’ll have to forgive me if I don’t take the poli boards interpretation of something as gospel straight out.
Go inform yourself maybe BEFORE you choose to show your arse on the board. That could be a start.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:16 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:No you didn't.
All I got out of that is that in your mind it was okay when conservative media lies about Obama, which they did daily, but it’s not okay when liberal media lies about Trump
They lied about his actual words. In a COORDINATED effort.........all at once.
You have NOTHING you can compare to that.
quote:Says the guy who makes absurd not even close comparisons.
This is why I can take y’all seriously.
quote:I don't really expect media to always be right or even to never be slanted...........but lying to make a person look racist when you KNOW you're lying is fricking low dirt bag shite.
You don’t actually care about an honest media
quote:Which media do I like? I couldn't tell you who is going to be on tonight on Fox without Googling and, there's half decent chance I wouldn't know all of them.
You’re the one equivocating and giving a pass to the media you like.
I make fun of Alex Jones on here all the time.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:17 am to ShortyRob
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:19 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
I didn’t even hear about this until I came here his morning, and you’ll have to forgive me if I don’t take the poli boards interpretation of something as gospel straight out. But I’ve already said several times that to the extent it’s true it’s a problem.
Maybe, just maybe the issue is you are known on this board as a contrarian who simply argues against what is even common sense if the majority of the board agrees with the common sense , so when you do legitimately question something, no one believes you because of your posting history.... I'm saying that sincerely. I can't think of a single instance myself where someone has obviously wronged Trump and you have simply came in and said "that's wrong" and left it at that, and man it's just not possible that Trump is in the wrong EVERY SINGLE TIME these fools claim he is.
Just food for thought.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:20 am to TigerMyth36
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the liberal idiots on here were arguing that
Always remember that these bastards are not here to debate, they are here to FIGHT us.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:20 am to ShortyRob
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They lied about his actual words. In a COORDINATED effort.........all at once.
You have NOTHING you can compare to that.
That’s the modus operandi of conservative media as well. Just go run a search on media matters for examples. Literally thousands of examples from the Obama era out there. I’m sure you’ll poo poo media matters but literally all they do is post clips from conservative media.
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but lying to make a person look racist when you KNOW you're lying is fricking low dirt bag shite.
Not arguing otherwise
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:21 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Is this, in your opinion, a fair representation of what happened?
No.
They didn't take shite "out of context". They concocted a lie. Willfully. And then, edited the video to support the lie.
There was absolutely zero............repeat ZERO way for an otherwise intelligent human being to have listened to that meeting and come away thinking, "he just called immigrants animals".
I consider you an otherwise intelligent human being. If you've watched the full video yourself, you know I'm right.
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 9:22 am
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:21 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
conservative media lies about Obama
9%
quote:
liberal media lies about Trump.
91%
Surely you can see the difference and appreciate the conservative's argument of "we have a right to be pissed" concerning coverage of both?
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:23 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:Since it's easy.......you should have no trouble linking me to an example.
That’s the modus operandi of conservative media as well. Just go run a search on media matters for examples.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:23 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
That’s the modus operandi of conservative media as well. Just go run a search on media matters for examples. Literally thousands of examples from the Obama era out there. I’m sure you’ll poo poo media matters but literally all they do is post clips from conservative media.
Wasn't this all supposedly straight news reporting?
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:23 am to Y.A. Tittle
quote:EXACTLY
Wasn't this all supposedly straight news reporting?
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:25 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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the issue is you are known on this board as a contrarian who simply argues against what is even common sense if the majority of the board agrees with the common sense
That’s a misperception
Just because I disagree with most of you on a lot of things doesn’t necessarily mean I’m being contrarian. Maybe, just maybe, they’re are ways of looking at the world different than the dominant orthodoxy on here.
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I can't think of a single instance myself where someone has obviously wronged Trump and you have simply came in and said "that's wrong" and left it at that
People say this but I have done that many times. And I did it it well before Trump. I guess I need to start a running list so I can post link after link when someone says this. Here’s one example I was able to easily find
LINK
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 9:27 am
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