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re: Was Paddock a magician?

Posted on 10/5/17 at 7:58 pm to
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 7:58 pm to
Paddock was framed as the killer,

the real killer got away.
Posted by hwyman108
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:00 pm to
When they pinpointed the location of fire, the building was surrounded and locked down I would assume. No one was leaving the premises. We are talking about a 64yr old man that looks like he was not very well conditioned to be able to make any kind of daring escape. The moment he engaged, it was over for him.
Posted by TheCurmudgeon
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:22 pm to
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except as someone with knowledge of planes and aviation fuel, he would know that a simple bullet rupture would not cause the tank to blow.

god you are ignorant.




Can someone explain how a 55 grain LEAD bullet decelerating at 2,000 feet was gonna light off a fuel tank? Or why someone with $100k in guns and ammo didn't spend $5k on a 50 BMG w a scope if he was targeting the fuel tanks (not that that would work either)?

Jesus, move on from the tanks already.
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 8:24 pm
Posted by hwyman108
Member since Nov 2016
1568 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:25 pm to
True. You would need a incendiary round.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:29 pm to
Ah yes the old Hans Gruber method.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:39 pm to
There's no way they could have surrounded and locked down that massive hotel in such a short time frame. You're talking about an event that was pure chaos. Now he may have had some escape plan in mind, but I think he realized he was trapped fairly quickly. He may have figured that he had x amount of time before he was located, and planned on escaping after a certain amount of time had elapsed. However, if he was counting on the cops being there in 20 Minutes and the security guard shows up in 5, then he had to alter his plans.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:46 pm to
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Plan was to get the hostages to the roof, then blow the roof. By the time the FBI gets done sorting out the casualties, he is long gone.



Yippie Ki Yay
Posted by AUX3
Member since Dec 2010
3452 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:51 pm to
Better question -
Why does anyone think he was trying to escape?

No evidence to indicate such stupidity
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29175 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:57 pm to
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The CIA told him he was going to have an exfil team but they double crossed him to make him the patsy. Classic CIA stuff, man.



Sad thing is that might be true
Posted by Abadeebadaba
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:01 pm to
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Blow up the tanks of aviation fuel.

I think so too.

quote:

Mass confusion, possibly many more deaths.

Escape.


But, he brought a hammer to smash the window out. His name is on the hotel bill and the window would be out. Everyone would know it was him.

Wonder if he had a plan to fly to the
Philippines and live off the 100K.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:06 pm to
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We are told that Paddock had an escape plan.
Who told us this?
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19064 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:09 pm to
quote:

Better question -
Why does anyone think he was trying to escape?

No evidence to indicate such stupidity


Ask the sherrif. He is the one who indicated that he believed Paddock has some plan for escape.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59695 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:11 pm to
There was a cop on 31 who tried to get up to 32 via the stairwell but it was barricaded. Say he barricaded floors 31-28. He coulda walked down to below the barricades and made his way to a stairwell that emptied into the parking garage.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:13 pm to
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exactly how was he going to get out of that hotel.


By shaking off this mortal coil.
Posted by Quidam65
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Member since Jun 2010
19309 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:41 pm to
No but it turns out he once worked for the same FedGov agency that is my current employer (DCAA, he worked for them in 84-85 and I didn't start until 87)
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:53 pm to
Or his plan could've been to go up the stairs-- into the Four Seasons hotel located above MB. He could then possibly try to blend in with people evacuating..

A planned escape through Four Seasons could also tie into the possible terrorism/ gun dealing theory considering who owns that hotel and the people who frequent it....
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
24178 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:01 pm to
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planned escape through Four Seasons could also tie into the possible terrorism/ gun dealing theory considering who owns that hotel and the people who frequent it....



Elaborate please
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:10 pm to
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Paddock was framed as the killer,

the real killer got away.


Yep.

2nd time he fooled them.




Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81890 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:22 pm to
Yah what if he had a room in the 4 seasons under a different name
Posted by Flame Salamander
Texas Gulf - Clear Lake
Member since Jan 2012
3044 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 1:52 am to
Where was he going to escape to? Living your life on the run as an alias is no way to live life like he was used to.

He booked the room in his own name and busted out the windows. Was he going to claim that somebody else did it?

I don't buy that he really thought there would be any outcome but his death.
This post was edited on 10/6/17 at 1:54 am
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