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re: Warren's gun control plan is out.....pretty damn radical imo.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 12:43 pm to Antonio Moss
Posted on 8/11/19 at 12:43 pm to Antonio Moss
Warren clearly thinks she has a winning position with this insanity. She is gonna find out how far out of the mainstream she really is.
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Posted on 8/11/19 at 12:44 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:Might as well add solo cup, penguin ice, coke-cola and Jack Daniels to the list of those being sued.
So we can sue Ford when a drunk driver has a wreck? Makes total sense.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 12:46 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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30% excise tax on all firearms, 50% (!!) excise tax on all ammunition. What a pathetic attempt to violate the 2nd amendment rights of poor blacks who need firearms for protection the most.
Sure, as soon as they start testing voters to make sure they are intelligent enough to vote and required background check and ID as well.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 12:48 pm to Aristo
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Sure, as soon as they start testing voters to make sure they are intelligent enough to vote and required background check and ID as well.
Which will lead to an incredible discussion where they assert that voting is a right (it isn’t) but gun ownership is not.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 1:01 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Warren's gun control plan is out.....pretty damn radical imo.
It would never survive. It violates the shite out of the 2nd amendment and the 4th amendment too.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 1:07 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Some of the posters here keep saying never apologize and never give an inch. If anyone takes the time to actually read her proposals, she says they will keep revisiting it as new ideas come up. Think about that when wanting to compromise.
Look anyone thinking these restrictions will actually work have no clue about criminals or history. None of the proposals proposed would have stopped Virgina Tech or the University of Texas shooting. Right off the bat that tells you a mass shooting won't be stopped.
Looking at that list of nonsense gun owners better start looking to organize and attack bad laws in the courts while we actually have a favorable court representation. We are not going to get a leader who's a 110% 2A lover but we can get them to appoint favorable 2A judges.
Let's remember this- the Republicans didn't give us the individual right of the 2A, that was done by SCOTUS. Thr Republicans couldn't even repeal the Assault weapons ban after getting control of the House, POTUS and Senate. The law expired.
We are not going to prevail unless we prevail in the courts.
Look anyone thinking these restrictions will actually work have no clue about criminals or history. None of the proposals proposed would have stopped Virgina Tech or the University of Texas shooting. Right off the bat that tells you a mass shooting won't be stopped.
Looking at that list of nonsense gun owners better start looking to organize and attack bad laws in the courts while we actually have a favorable court representation. We are not going to get a leader who's a 110% 2A lover but we can get them to appoint favorable 2A judges.
Let's remember this- the Republicans didn't give us the individual right of the 2A, that was done by SCOTUS. Thr Republicans couldn't even repeal the Assault weapons ban after getting control of the House, POTUS and Senate. The law expired.
We are not going to prevail unless we prevail in the courts.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 1:07 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
As an Indian Warren ought to know the history of trusting the white man government taking guns away...
Posted on 8/11/19 at 1:31 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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30% excise tax on all firearms, 50% (!!) excise tax on all ammunition.
Sounds like a poll tax for the 2nd amendment.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 1:35 pm to Antonio Moss
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Under what legal theory is this not blatantly unreasonable?
They have been using tortured definitions of negligent entrustment to get around the PLCAA. Basically that gun manufacturers and dealers are negligent even by only having certain weapons for sale and they should have forseen potential abuses.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 1:41 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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30% excise tax on all firearms, 50% (!!) excise tax on all ammunition.
Sounds like a poll tax.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 2:15 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
So in her fricked up mind it's ok for people to keep dying from guns as long as we are taxed for it?
Not that I even think guns are responsible, it's just unbelievable logic
Not that I even think guns are responsible, it's just unbelievable logic
This post was edited on 8/11/19 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 8/11/19 at 2:31 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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So in her fricked up mind it's ok for people to keep dying from guns as long as we are taxed for it?
Yes.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 2:36 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Holding gun manufacturers and sellers of firearms liable for deaths involving a gun made by the manufacturer. Warren also calls for this to be retroactive, so a gun death from 30 years ago can be used to bring a lawsuit against a firearm manufacturer or firearm seller.
What a great idea.
We can also sue alcohol companies when a drunk driver kills someone and sue car manufacturers when a person is killed in a car crash.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 2:39 pm to Revelator
Can we sue Congress men and women when they pass a bill that mills someone?
Posted on 8/11/19 at 2:41 pm to wickowick
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Can we sue Congress men and women when they pass a bill that mills someone?
Sure why not. Let's be consistent
Posted on 8/11/19 at 2:45 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Well....it wasn’t like she was going to be a serious candidate anyway. Bye bye Pocahontas
Posted on 8/11/19 at 2:46 pm to Muleriderhog
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I'm for some gun regulation
Carefull what you ask for. This is what you'll get...
Posted on 8/11/19 at 2:47 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Holding gun manufacturers and sellers of firearms liable for deaths involving a gun made by the manufacturer.
This will open pandora’s Box. I my not so humble opinion now any manufacturer can be sued for actions beyond their control.
This post was edited on 8/11/19 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 8/11/19 at 2:54 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:Hell, for that you’d be able to sue ford, Firestone, and the state for building the road.
So we can sue Ford when a drunk driver has a wreck? Makes total sense.
Posted on 8/11/19 at 2:58 pm to Jones
quote:Pffffttt small thinker. How about magic bullets that only fire when aimed at criminals? As long as we’re going to star believing in magic.... go big or go home.
Require handgun makers to produce only smart guns: Those that require a fingerprint ID to be operable.
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