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re: WaPo Reporter: No more POTUS Trump press pool because CNN was dropped

Posted on 9/21/26 at 11:40 am to
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
10315 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 11:40 am to
Good.

Can I watch it on NewsMax ?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
64219 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 11:44 am to
Can't wait until we only get our news from Laura Loomer.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
11578 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 11:45 am to
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sure the courts will shoot this down and we will just need to keep the last row of chairs open.


FWIW, I don't think the courts will shoot this down.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
25212 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 11:52 am to
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Unfortunately Trump is about to have it handed to him by the courts.

Theres no right to a press pass or media access. However once you allow the media in, you can’t selectively choose who gets in because you don’t like their coverage


I share Trumps disgust with the MSM propaganda machine, but... the courts won't back him up on this.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
25212 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 11:55 am to
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Nobody stopped free speech, they stopped them from entering a room




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On September 18, 2026, Trump announced an immediate ban of CNN, MS NOW, and Politico from the White House because of what he called “fake news” and “purposely negative” reporting. Hard passes were deactivated. On Saturday, reporters from those outlets were turned away at the gate and had their credentials seized. CNN was also dropped from its scheduled television pool rotation. The outlets sued on September 21 alleging First Amendment and due process violations.

cnn.com

Why courts treat this as a First Amendment issueThe press clause and free-speech clause protect more than the right to publish after the fact. They also protect newsgathering. Courts have repeatedly said the government cannot use its control over access to official spaces to retaliate against journalists for their viewpoint or to coerce more favorable coverage.Key legal pieces:Viewpoint discrimination. Trump’s own statements tied the ban directly to dislike of the outlets’ reporting. Once the White House opens a briefing room, press pool, North Lawn positions, or credentialed access to the grounds, it generally cannot exclude participants because it objects to what they have published or are likely to publish. That is the classic “textbook viewpoint discrimination” argument First Amendment lawyers are making.

nytimes.com

Retaliation for protected speech. Newsgathering and publication are protected activity. Using government power (revoking credentials, denying physical access that other similarly situated reporters still have) to punish that activity is treated as unconstitutional retaliation.
Limited/nonpublic forum rules. The White House briefing room and press pool are not public parks, but they are government-created forums for a specific class of speakers (credentialed journalists). When the government creates such a forum, exclusions must be viewpoint-neutral and reasonable. Arbitrary or content-based exclusion fails that test.
Due process. Hard passes have historically been treated as a property-like interest that cannot be yanked overnight with no notice or opportunity to be heard. Precedent from the 1970s (Sherrill v. Knight) and the first-term Acosta case both turned on this combination of First Amendment plus procedural protections.

The outlets are not claiming a constitutional right to a seat in every briefing. They are claiming the government cannot use selective exclusion from an existing access system as a tool to reward friendly coverage and punish critical coverage.


Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2721 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 12:01 pm to
it depends on what exactly was done. Some reporting indicates the press passes for the entire White House grounds were deactivated/denied. If true, that seems very different from what happened in the AP case, where the AP was just banned from the oval office, air force one, rose garden, and maybe a few other particular spaces.
But if you deny a press outlet access to the whole white house grounds - like the briefing room - on the basis of viewpoint - that might get Trump in trouble.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
34622 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 12:02 pm to
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The “primary White House TV pool” is a completely made-up thing dressed up to look official. It is basically a group of self-important, so-called media organizations that, over time, appointed themselves “primary” and now expect everyone else to accept that they are entitled to some permanent special status above everyone else.

The whole thing is a racket made to look like an official institution. Why does anyone still buy into this crap?

Anyone with a camera can provide this footage. The White House itself could provide it. Any other organization could provide it. There is nothing inherently special about this self-appointed group, except that they have spent years telling everyone there is
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Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
11578 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 12:15 pm to
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that might get Trump in trouble.


Good points. Close call. It will be fun to see how long the President can go without live video of him from Fox.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
18254 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 12:26 pm to
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Imagine if the democrats were allowed to do this.


You mean like when 440 reporters lost press credentials after President Joe Biden’s White House modified its rules for eligibility for permanent passes?? And it was excused by these same networks crying foul?
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86762 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 12:26 pm to
A gift-now is the perfect time to accept their terms and make the transition from the decrepit curated legacy media to the new media that people ACTUALLY CONSUME. Literally nothing s lost-old media can still function as watchdogs or light shiners or any other term they use to flatter themselves, but we can get dissemination of the news somewhere besides through the filter of these gigantic, biased media corporations.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
18254 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 12:36 pm to
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We love our state controlled media, don’t we folks.


That's exactly what it is anyway have you not seen the compilations of different reporters saying the exact same things? Word for word? And it just so happens to contain the buzzwords of the day?

Remember the "war on women"?

The "science deniers"?

Antifa being an "idea"?

The Floyd riots being "fiery but peaceful?"

Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
172144 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 12:42 pm to
Yep.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11998 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 12:55 pm to
Greenwald admits these outlets are "chronic spreaders of lies," but still defends them as part of a "free press?"

He's not too smart, is he? Freedom of the press isn't to cover for lies. Freedom of the press is for uncomfortable truths. Allowing the media to openly spread lies hurts democracy, which invalidates the entire purpose of the 1st amendment.

Another example of being so principled that you stupidly harm what you are supposed to be defending.

And their first amendment right is not being stifled. They still have the freedom to say anything they want. They 1st amendment does not cover access.

If Trump can't choose who attends press briefings, why should he be able to choose who does his interviews? If the argument is access, why are interviews treated differently? They are just long-form press briefings.

If Trump has to allow the liars, then he should be required to allow all journalists, no matter their organizations. Every member of the press, including anyone who writes for a neo-nazi or nation of Islam newsletter to Joe Blow with a podcast, must be allowed.

Freedom of the press isn't just for large corporations and established talking heads. We will have to move press briefings to an auditorium.
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