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re: Voter fraud in Georgia is a fact. Watch and you decide.

Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:04 am to
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49540 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:04 am to
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Guess that's why your GPS had you drive to Hawaii.

And it was good enough to get hundreds of J6 'insurrectionists' put in solitary confinement.
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
11081 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:08 am to
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And I think a lot of Dems know exactly what we all know; they're just celebrating the fact that you can't prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that what you see was illegal.


Then there's the cellular tracking data. All of those people on camera went by Stacy Abrams non profit location....multiple times after leaving drop boxes. This is the same cellular tracking data that got grand ma and grand pa put in jail for just being on the capitol grounds during J6th. It's enough to start an investigation by the feds, or the GBI, etc but none of that happened. Trump was impeached for less.

Hell....the feds would start investigating an average citizen with much less evidence than what we see on video in that movie.
Posted by TheSadvocate
North Shore
Member since Aug 2020
4655 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:09 am to
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That movie, and the basis behind it, is a joke



Ahhh...the classic dem response.. You sound like the big guy talking about that fake laptop. I suppose anyone who asks you for proof of this joke is a racist. Yall really need some better debate content.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:10 am to
Forget 2000 Mules for a second. Can we at least address the thousands of ballots double and triple counted in Fulton County?
Posted by LaMigra
Member since Nov 2022
2774 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:14 am to
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quote:STFU with your conspiracy bull shite How about you just STFU with your BS in general.


No kidding, this moron has the IQ of a sloth!!
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34286 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:19 am to
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STFU with your conspiracy bull shite

How about you just STFU with your BS in general.

Hes just mad that 70% of republicans suspect voter shenanigans, and he nor his anointed candidate are in that group. Which has resulted in a quick slide for Rob! from Trump killer to 3rd place. And sliding
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:31 am to
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Then there's the cellular tracking data. All of those people on camera went by Stacy Abrams non profit location....multiple times after leaving drop boxes.


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At one point in the film, Phillips shares a visual purporting to show the movements of a single cellphone.

“What you see here on this screen is a single person on a single day in Atlanta, Georgia,” Phillips explains. “They went to 28 drop boxes and five organizations in one day.”

But as Philip Bump of the Washington Post learned, the dots purporting to be drop box locations did not match up with actual drop box locations. And he called Phillips on it.

Phillips responded via email that “the movie graphics are not literal interpretations of our data.”

LINK

I'll also add this interesting story:

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/georgia-sues-true-the-vote-produce-evidence-mules-documentary-claims

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ATLANTA - The Georgia State Election Board is asking a judge to order a conservative voting organization to produce information to help investigate its claims of ballot trafficking in the state.

The Texas-based True the Vote group filed complaints with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger in November 2021, including one saying it had received "a detailed account of coordinated efforts to collect and deposit ballots in drop boxes across metro Atlanta" during the 2020 general election and in a runoff election in January 2021.

True the Vote’s assertions were relied upon heavily for the film "2000 Mules," a widely debunked film by conservative pundit and filmmaker Dinesh D’Souza. The film featured surveillance video from drop boxes in Atlanta’s suburbs showing people depositing multiple ballots. A State Election Board investigation found that those people were submitting ballots for themselves and family members who lived with them, which is allowed under Georgia law.

In the court filing Tuesday, the state attorney general’s office asked a Fulton County Superior Court judge to order True the Vote to comply with its subpoena.

"After multiple good faith efforts by the SEB (State Election Board) and its counsel to obtain the requested information and documents, True the Vote continues to indifferently vacillate between statements of assured compliance and blanket refusals," leaving the election board with no choice but to turn to the courts, the filing says.

Two attorneys who have represented True the Vote in the matter did not immediately respond to emails seeking comment Wednesday.

True the Vote’s complaint said its investigators "spoke with several individuals regarding personal knowledge, methods, and organizations involved in ballot trafficking in Georgia." One of those people, referred to in the complaint only as John Doe, "admitted to personally participating and provided specific information about the ballot trafficking process." Doe is alleged to have outlined a "network of non-governmental organizations" that paid people to collect and deliver absentee ballots.

The group said it was able to confirm patterns of activity to support the allegations using surveillance video and geospatial mobile device information. In a September 2021 letter, Vic Reynolds, who was director of the Georgia Bureau of Investigation at the time, said the evidence produced did not amount to proof of ballot harvesting.

After receiving the group’s complaints two months later, Raffensperger’s office opened an investigation. Investigators in April 2022 issued subpoenas to True the Vote for relevant documents and information, including the identity and contact information for people who True the Vote said provided details about the alleged ballot trafficking.

A lawyer for True the Vote in May 2023 wrote a letter to a state attorney saying that a complete response to the subpoenas would require the organization to identify people to whom it had promised confidentiality and that it could not do that. The lawyer wrote that True the Vote was withdrawing its complaints.

State Election Board Chair William Duffey responded in a letter two weeks later, saying that the board’s investigation into True the Vote’s "serious allegations" was ongoing. Therefore, he wrote, he would not allow the complaints to be withdrawn and asked the state attorney general’s office to seek enforcement of the subpoenas.

A lawyer for True the Vote in June wrote in a letter that True the Vote had already provided some of the information requested to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation but declined to provide the identities and contact information for people described in its complaints "because doing so may put those persons in physical or personal jeopardy."

One man falsely accused in the film of committing ballot fraud has filed a still-pending federal lawsuit against True the Vote, D’Souza and others. Surveillance video in the film shows Mark Andrews, his face blurred, depositing five ballots in a drop box in downtown Lawrenceville, a suburb northeast of Atlanta, ahead of the 2020 election. A voiceover by conservative pundit and filmmaker Dinesh D’Souza says: "What you are seeing is a crime. These are fraudulent votes."

A state investigation found that Andrews was dropping off ballots for himself and his three adult children.


Georgia is actually trying to investigate the claims made by 2000 Mules, but they won't provide the evidence to help with the investigation. That's odd, isn't it.
Posted by OutOfNames
Member since Dec 2019
1079 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:33 am to
I hope Trump gets 400M votes in 2024 just to make a point. And if he loses, even better, I hope there's 900M votes cast this time.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49540 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:33 am to
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People take pictures of themselves voting all the time

:oh good grief:

Yep - it is practically endemic -We get 'I voted' cards all the time - we string them up over the fireplace just to maintain connections with all our fellow-voting friends.

And when they keep their vinyl gloves on it is even more touching - knowing that "our" ballot is in that big bag with all our OTHER close balloteers.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28173 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:35 am to
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A State Election Board investigation found that those people were submitting ballots for themselves and family members who lived with them, which is allowed under Georgia law.



"Sir, why did you deposit a stack of ballots into a drop box?"
"My good man, those were my family members, all perfectly legal."
"Well done then, responsible citizen."
Posted by newmexicotiger
Member since Sep 2017
4420 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:36 am to
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I’ve yet to meet a person in real life who believes the election was stolen or rigged.


In "real life". So, all the people you have met in your "pretend life" think the 2020 election was legit. Got it.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:38 am to
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"Sir, why did you deposit a stack of ballots into a drop box?"
"My good man, those were my family members, all perfectly legal."
"Well done then, responsible citizen."



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But again, investigators said they checked voter records for registered voters in the home and confirmed via the state’s eNet voter verification system that ballots for those family members were deposited in those drop boxes on the day in question.

Although the movie shows numerous people depositing multiple ballots into a drop box, importantly, it does not show a single example of any person making deposits at multiple drop boxes.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23815 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:41 am to
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Are you going to demonstrate gravity next so I can form an opinion on that as well?


Then don't watch. I don't give two shits if you rather remain willfully ignorant.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26524 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:42 am to
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quote:
Guess that's why your GPS had you drive to Hawaii.

And it was good enough to get hundreds of J6 'insurrectionists' put in solitary confinement.



Yep. In the early days of GPS tracking it was not very accurate at all. Now it is accurate to within a few feet as anyone with cell phone GPS navigating in their car can testify.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28173 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:46 am to
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But again, investigators said they checked voter records for registered voters in the home and confirmed via the state’s eNet voter verification system that ballots for those family members were deposited in those drop boxes on the day in question.



And they found what percentage of people who dropped off stacks? I don't doubt that the same person dropped off a stack for a family, because that's how you would pick them up if you're harvesting. And nothing you've said explains the pictures to a reasonable person.

You might can hypothetically explain away any and every anomaly that came out of that election and I have no doubt you've done so many times. I'll use Occam's Razor.
Posted by Chazreinhold
Utah
Member since Oct 2020
7479 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:46 am to
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I’ve yet to meet a person in real life who believes the election was stolen or rigged.


I went to a family reunion a few weeks ago. Out of 40 or so close and distant relatives not one of them believes we have fair and transparent elections.
This post was edited on 8/16/23 at 10:48 am
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:52 am to
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I'll use Occam's Razor.


You're using it wrong. You're making a lot more assumptions to reach your conclusion than I am.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49540 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:56 am to
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only "stollen" (nice spelling there, moron) were definitively proven to be stolen by Republicans

yeppers - the "powers that be" have NO problem pulling out all the stops to demonstrate that some random GOP insurrectionist actually VIOLATED SOME PROCESS/LAW. They have demonstrated CONCLUSIVELY that there were 3 or 4 votes that were cast under suspicious circumstance - and THEY will PAY THE PRICE!!!! for tampering with our sacred ballot counting process.

MEANWHILE they are completely satisfied with the 'sure - there is always some fraud somewhere, but in this case there was not enough to change the outcome of the election, so = nevermind"

But THOSE 3 votes need to result in some JAIL TIME!!!! - to the GALLOWs with this 'insurrectionist' trying to UNSEAT OUR DEMOCRACY!!!!!!

And to think - all they had to do was follow up on an allegation to actually prove the crime.

allegations that benefit DEMs
= INVESTIGATE - PROSECUTE - INCARCERATE - PUBLICIZE

allegations that benefit Conservatives
= DISTRACTION!!! - CONSPIRACY!! - INADEQUATE!! - IGNORE!! - DENOUNCE!!
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28173 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 10:58 am to
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You're using it wrong. You're making a lot more assumptions to reach your conclusion than I am.


The only assumption I'm making is that something that looks, walks and sounds like a duck is a duck. If you want to pretend all those Zuckerbucks weren't for a specific purpose, and the anomalies that just happened to occur in battleground states with dense urban areas that also just happen to be tailor-made for illegal harvesting and just happen to be controlled by dems is all one big coincidence, and all the law changes were innocent, random drop boxes didn't have a specific purpose, and people wearing masks and gloves while they take pictures of piles of ballots going into a box were just doing so for instagram when they weren't even in the frame, you can do all that.

But don't pretend I'm making more assumptions than you are.
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
5171 posts
Posted on 8/16/23 at 11:16 am to
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and the anomalies that just happened to occur in battleground states with dense urban areas that also just happen to be tailor-made for illegal harvesting and just happen to be controlled by dems is all one big coincidence,


What anomalies?
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