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Posted on 9/23/26 at 7:17 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Nothing. I was just citing that as an accomplishment for a political candidate.
As is rushing for a numbered yards in a loss. Congrats I guess. This place is infested with bots. Not you, Hank. But the Dems are clearly scared. The amount of alters posting the same buzzwords over and over is too obvious. What a time.
Posted on 9/23/26 at 7:30 pm to Tigersforthee
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I think its certainly reasonable to criticize Trump, as it is with any politician, however when that suddenly morphs into voting for Democrats you expose yourself as being FOS, as no true conservative would trade 2 more years of Trump doing what he can with a rino congress for 2 more years of Trump being impeached and literally every member of his administration being questioned by dirtbag Democrats on a daily basis in order to keep them from doing their jobs.
Wrong.
Supporting the neocons does NOT prevent democrats from getting into office. It only delays it. And while it's being delayed, they aren't really supporting conservative issues, and they are ruining the reputation of the republican party, like right now.
That means if you support neocons, you're adding a minimum of 8 years before a conservative has a chance to win, most likely 12.
If a neocon wins the next election for example, that's 4 years without conservative issues or real change. At which point inevitable it allows the democrats to get back in power, only now they get even more extreme and still get votes because everyone hates the GOP.
So now you're up to 8 years without conservatives. And in that time, the GOP will likely run another neocon, giving the democrats anotehr 4 years and now you are up to 12 years.
That means the earliest we might see another conservative candidate is 2040.
And then you have to hope he actually follows the conservative platform rather than just pretending to for votes. As has been the case since Reagan - and even Reagan had Bush thrown on him forcing/throwing in neocon policy.
So yeah, the sooner the democrats get back in office, the sooner we have a chance at a conservative.
I'm holding out hope he base doesn't forget what it wanted 2 years ago and we get real conservatives running in 2028. But if we don't, I will straight up vote democrat before I'll vote for a republican.
I've watched this shite for 40 damn years now, I know how this goes. I've watched it over and over. The only time conservatives issues get any attention is when democrats are in office.
I don't care who likes it or what people call me. I do not vote for the lesser of 2 evils. Voting for the lesser of 2 evils is why our country is fricked. Since 1980, the past 46 years, Republicans have been in power more often than democrats. 28 years vs 20 years. And even now while having the house, senate, presidency and even the supreme court - no real change is happening.
Posted on 9/23/26 at 7:35 pm to DeBoar
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who are actually democrats in disguise of “conservatives” threatening to stay home?
I'm a conservative and I'm not staying home.
I'm straight voting against any my own republican congressman even if it means voting democrat.
And I'm voting against every other federal election where the candidate is owned by AIPAC and that's basically all republicans.
I will still vote republican when it comes to state officials.
But it's funny hearing people who aren't conservative, such as yourself, trying to claim it's everyone else who isn't conservative.
What do you want to conserve? What makes you a conservative?
You don't want limited government.
You don't want decreased spending.
You support foreign wars.
You support increased police state and a loss of rights for citizens.
You support government owning businesses.
What about you is conservative? You hate trannies and you blindly vote for anyone with a R next to their name? That's what makes you a conservative?
Personally, I think you get paid to post this stupid crap day after day.
Posted on 9/23/26 at 8:27 pm to DeBoar
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I’m supposedly a cultist
You're semi-close to self awareness, at least.
Posted on 9/23/26 at 9:49 pm to 3down10
quote:This. Look at who were the first to turn to Democrats when Trump first ran for office -- the Neocon class .The George Will, Goerge Conway, Rick Wilson, Bill Krystols, etc. all jumped ship as fast as they could. It's completely puzzling why this term Trump has done nothing but protect and appease that wing of party. It makes zero sense to me.
Supporting the neocons does NOT prevent democrats from getting into office. It only delays it. And while it's being delayed, they aren't really supporting conservative issues, and they are ruining the reputation of the republican party, like right now.
Posted on 9/23/26 at 10:03 pm to 3down10
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If a neocon wins the next election for example, that's 4 years without conservative issues or real change.
The only conservatives in Congress are universally hated here. All 2 or 3 of them.
There aren't any conservatives left. Not running for office, anyway.
No change is the best that can be hoped for.
Not getting any better is far from the worst that can happen. It can get a whole lot worse.
This post was edited on 9/23/26 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 9/23/26 at 10:51 pm to cajunangelle
quote:I'm basically the opposite of libertarian, you dolt.
AKA Democrat posing as a "libertarian"
you're so bad at this.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 1:35 am to 3down10
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That means if you support neocons, you're adding a minimum of 8 years before a conservative has a chance to win, most likely 12.
No one is barring conservatives from running for office.
The problem is they can't win. They have to shed lots of conservative values to appeal to enough moderates to win. Then, there not much better than the neocons they're replacing.
The problem is much deeper than voting for the lesser of two evils. This country was created for, and meant to be maintained by, men of principle. When the men of principle vanish (or mostly vanish) then so does the country they built.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 1:57 am to Azkiger
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No one is barring conservatives from running for office.
The problem is they can't win. They have to shed lots of conservative values to appeal to enough moderates to win. Then, there not much better than the neocons they're replacing.
The problem is much deeper than voting for the lesser of two evils. This country was created for, and meant to be maintained by, men of principle. When the men of principle vanish (or mostly vanish) then so does the country they built.
Conservatives win elections, neoconservatives lose them. The problem is once the so called conservatives win, they turn into neocons. That's the cycle and it leads to democrats winning.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 2:41 am to 3down10
quote:I don't think that particular poster is a paid troll. I think he genuinely believes someone is coming to save him from a mediocre life he feels is beneath him, and for some strange reason he thinks that person is a douchebag billionaire from New York. Sure, I think it's pathetic and un-American to pledge fealty to a politician, but whatever floats his boat.
Personally, I think you get paid to post this stupid crap day after day.
I think he and others like him are symptoms of the inevitable decay of a republic. They were born during, or shortly after, half a century of wealth and prosperity on a scale without historical precedent. That gave these guys the impression that an extreme historical anomaly- the United States emerging from World War II as the last industrial power standing, wasn't an anomaly at all. It was simply the baseline of what they deserve in life. More than that, they came to see it as their birthright.
Unfortunately for that fantasy, 1945 was more than 80 years ago. The rest of the developed world rebuilt. Billions of people outside the United States became competitors, producers, consumers, and political actors in their own right. Unfortunately, America can't time travel back to the moments in history when circumstances were uniquely favorable to us.
I understand why they want that world back. Hell, I want it back too. Who wouldn't want decades of extraordinary prosperity, rising wages, cheap housing, enormous industrial dominance, and a middle-class lifestyle that could be supported on one income?
But the rest of the world doesn't want to return to the 1950's, and it turns out they get a say too.
That's where I split with these people. I can understand the nostalgia. What I can't understand is putting your faith in an obvious charlatan who tells you he can somehow reverse 80 years of global economic development through executive orders and truth social memes.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 2:55 am to northshorebamaman
I saw you post something similar the other day and you captured what I had been thinking. Trump has sort of convinced people we can go back to the ‘50’s or ‘80’s, but we can’t just tariff our way back to that. Credit to him for winning the support of the disillusioned. But, I think that support is waning the way things are going lately.
This post was edited on 9/24/26 at 2:56 am
Posted on 9/24/26 at 2:56 am to northshorebamaman
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I don't think that particular poster is a paid troll.
I agree, I keep getting him confused with DeBoer.
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I think he and others like him are symptoms of the inevitable decay of a republic. They were born during, or shortly after, half a century of wealth and prosperity on a scale without historical precedent. That gave these guys the impression that an extreme historical anomaly- the United States emerging from World War II as the last industrial power standing, wasn't an anomaly at all. It was simply the baseline of what they deserve in life. More than that, they came to see it as their birthright.
Unfortunately for that fantasy, 1945 was more than 80 years ago. The rest of the developed world rebuilt. Billions of people outside the United States became competitors, producers, consumers, and political actors in their own right. Unfortunately, America can't time travel back to the moments in history when circumstances were uniquely favorable to us.
I understand why they want that world back. Hell, I want it back too. Who wouldn't want decades of extraordinary prosperity, rising wages, cheap housing, enormous industrial dominance, and a middle-class lifestyle that could be supported on one income?
But the rest of the world doesn't want to return to the 1950's, and it turns out they get a say too.
That's where I split with these people. I can understand the nostalgia. What I can't understand is putting your faith in an obvious charlatan who tells you he can somehow reverse 80 years of global economic development through executive orders and truth social memes.
I'd just like an honest monetary system and to have the republic back. I think much of what you mention would come back because those were mostly times before the money was inflated to crap. Going off the gold standard in 71 really screwed us... of course we can trace it back to 1913, but there were obvious good economic times in the 50s.
I can't say much about putting faith in Trump, I voted for him in 2024. But the honeymoon ended rather quickly once he started the BBB and attacking people who actually wanted the things campaigned on. And it's just gotten worse. I have no faith in him anymore and I'm not going to defend it.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 3:03 am to 3down10
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Conservatives win elections, neoconservatives lose them. The problem is once the so called conservatives win, they turn into neocons. That's the cycle and it leads to democrats winning.
This 2nd Trump term has been a bitter black pillow for me to swallow. The whole cultural revolution we though we were fighting was basically a scam. Noecons after tcking the country over in the early 2000s just managed to get their agenda in on what should have been the most libertarian administration.
I knew shite was fcked when Rubio was made SOS. That's when I realized Donny cut a deal/got compromised. It could have been earlier on too. Adelson's donations were another early big red flag.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 8:05 am to 3down10
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I'm straight voting against any my own republican congressman even if it means voting democrat.
Okay
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What about you is conservative?
lol, certainly a lot more than you.
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Personally, I think you get paid to post this stupid crap day after day.
Have you looked at your post history?
Posted on 9/24/26 at 8:21 am to DeBoar
All this csn bd true:
Trump is better than Harris
Trump has a good overall agenda
Trump is making some mistakes
Trump is better than Harris
Trump has a good overall agenda
Trump is making some mistakes
Posted on 9/24/26 at 8:22 am to Azkiger
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You don't think nuking, or threatening to nuke, Europe will have zero effect on America?
Yes, it would, still their fight though. It would burden us financially as opposed to the European nations who would suffer great casualties. That's why it's their fight.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 2:16 pm to DeBoar
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lol, certainly a lot more than you.
Ok, name them.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 2:21 pm to cl02wnsmasher
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This 2nd Trump term has been a bitter black pillow for me to swallow.
I never had any doubt that 3XB guys were pillow biters. Looks like we found us one that’s a pillow swallower. I guess it was only a matter of time.
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