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re: Vivek flew too close to the sun - being exposed by TPUSA ambassador

Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:05 am to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130297 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:05 am to
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I don’t see many Pro-Trump voices elevating this clown.


Trump literally did it yesterday
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:06 am to
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I’m against rushed vaccines as well

Pureblood here


Pureblood here too including my entire family.

But remember the way out of the pandemic was a vaccine. That was the overarching idea from the "experts" to get us out of the pandemic. Then the election happened. Then the vaccine was released to the vulnerable with some success. Then vaccine injury and effectiveness started to present itself in the vaccinated population. Then Biden started with the mandates.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
40308 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:07 am to
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Nevada is a place Desantis has a possibility. Use that campaign cash to flood the airwaves with Trump attacking the state.


Well Trump just got back from there and called the entire state disgraceful. When asked how he would win Nevada he said he already won it twice, bigly.

Trump will not win Nevada
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:09 am to
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Based on the behavior of both candidates Iowa leans Ron right now.



Look I've said this many times before, Ron has a good shot a winning Iowa. He has the entire Cruz Crew running his team. Cruz won Iowa in 2016.

This primary will follow a similar path. Iowa is Ron's best chance.

In reality it's already over barring Trump being murdered, dying or thrown in jail.
This post was edited on 7/17/23 at 9:11 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130297 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:10 am to
You seem unusually disinterested in investigating Vivek's very murky past.

For someone that has made up some crazy things about Ron with no connection to reality, you seem to not even want to bother with Vivek when there are connections to reality.

Weird.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
97024 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:10 am to
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Odd how quickly Trump Loyalists here have jumped off that train.


Funny how that works when new information comes to light.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:11 am to
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I reality it's already over


I hope everyone is paying attention to this.

Every time Trump fricks up and DeSantis works him over on an issue, they run with "Meatball can't win."
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:11 am to
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Funny how that works when new information comes to light.


This isn't new information.

Nice try.
Posted by RammerJammer91
Member since Jan 2016
5694 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:11 am to
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This stuff was known when you “liked” Vivek.



Yep. They "liked" Vivek the same way they "liked" DeSantis. They "liked" them both until either Trump lied about them or his sycophants attacked them. In reality, they never liked them, never thought they were good candidates (or in DeSantis' case, a good Governor), and they would never vote for them. By the way, that is completely fine, but I just wish they would be honest about it.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37807 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:13 am to
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Look I've said this many times before, Ron has a good shot a winning Iowa. He has the entire Cruz Crew running his team. Cruz won Iowa in 2016.



I know you’ve said that but you also fail to acknowledge that Ron Desantis’ star is 1000x brighter going into this campaign than Ted Cruz’

Ted was expected to be an also ran and he parlayed that Iowa win into a second place finish in what was thought to be a pretty stacked primary.


If Ted Cruz could parlay that into being a strong second then Ron can change this race.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82405 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:15 am to
If the primary were today, I'd vote for Vivek.

I think the criticism in OP is fair but I judge more by how someone has responded to their mistakes than the mistakes themselves.

And he has responded very, very well.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37807 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:16 am to
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Well Trump just got back from there and called the entire state disgraceful. When asked how he would win Nevada he said he already won it twice, bigly. Trump will not win Nevada





Currently I think it’s 2-1 Ron going into South Carolina.

I will acknowledge that AT THIS MOMENT trump on a national level trounces Desantis.

But that’s not how primary season works.

Momentum and proving early viability is a huge thing.
This post was edited on 7/17/23 at 9:17 am
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
40308 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:16 am to
Ted Cruz fricked up by allowing Trump to outflank him on the right
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
40308 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:19 am to
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Currently I think it’s 2-1 Ron going into South Carolina.


If Trump sets foot on the debate stage he’s going to get killed by DeSantis for his vaccine stance which Trump will defend. It’s the schwerpunkt for taking Trump down and exposing him to the red confederate states (outside of Florida and Virginia)
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37807 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:19 am to
The New York values debate answer plus Murdoch and a lot of old school GOPe types holding back money or rather supporting Donald killed him.


Back in 2016 the establishment money wanted Don over Ted (they preferred Kasich when it was down to 3 but Kasich was never viable)


There wasn’t a clear lane to get consolidation from when others dropped out
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:21 am to
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If Trump sets foot on the debate stage he’s going to get killed


You know how many times I've heard this?

Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
40308 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:22 am to
Cruz was also screwed from the get-go by his looks and voice. It shouldn’t matter but it does.



Vs



Hence why Cruz grew the beard
This post was edited on 7/17/23 at 9:23 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130297 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:30 am to
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You know how many times I've heard this?


Trump lost to circa 2020 Joe Biden in a debate, something that should be impossible.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
16719 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:33 am to
I';m not defending Vivek because I know little about him, but IMO DC_Draino has flown too close to the sun.


He no longer possesses the ability to be objective. It's Trump good, everything else bad.

There's obviously money being made on this commentary so, do nothing to harm the revenue streams.
Posted by kennypowers
AR
Member since Mar 2009
627 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:34 am to
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How is calling vaccine eligibility good news the same as wanting to force it on people?


Shhhh...you're going to anger the hivemind. I do find it hilarious that ever alternate candidate(to Trump) ends up in the cross hairs on this board.
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