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re: Violence be damned in Portland. Facial recognition is now banned.

Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:50 am to
Posted by Shamwow
Member since Oct 2019
700 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:50 am to
Ban iPhones????
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:51 am to
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Old school ACLU types would have done this to protect the innocent

Now Wheeler is doing this to protect the violent and the arsonists.


100%.
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
14304 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:53 am to
Why would any business owner or citizen want to live in that hell hole?
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56147 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:55 am to
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Ban iPhones????



I understand it as you can't use images from electronic appliances to arrest and prosecute people. With cop body cams being financed by a government entity does that mean what they record will no longer be admissible?
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:56 am to
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surveillance became necessary


I disagree. As an innocent person, I'm not comfortable giving up my right to privacy in case someone else does something criminal. Call it that annoying Libertarian streak in me, but I hate that level of shared guilt.

It's why I refuse to get a Ring doorbell or the like. Sure, having a camera on the front door could be useful, and if one day someone stole a package off my door I could have a video of them...but for the rest of the 99.99999% of the time it'll be pointed at the street and at the front yard and door of my neighbor, essentially surveilling his home. I'd resent that myself so would never do that to someone else.
Posted by ldts
Member since Aug 2015
2910 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:57 am to
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Honestly, I don't hate this. I'm not a fan AT ALL of the Orwellian feeling of being watched 24/7 in public...the fact that we've grown accustomed to never not being watched is creepy to me.


Same here, the surveillance state needs to be dialed back.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85125 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:58 am to
Meh, I hate Portland as much as the next person... But your first line is disingenuous...

Unless there is something left out of what you quoted, Facial Recognition Technology is not the same as
quote:

Videos, both public and some private, will no longer be allowed to be used to identify you committing crimes



They are saying you can’t have the AI generated recognition that you see in airports and the likes.
This post was edited on 9/10/20 at 10:59 am
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
38372 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:58 am to
They’ll run out of city to burn soon won’t they ??
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56147 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:59 am to
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It's why I refuse to get a Ring doorbell or the like.


Do you have a security system installed in your home?
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18704 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:59 am to
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Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 11:05 am to
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Do you have a security system installed in your home?


I don't, actually. We built the house in 2004 and was hard wired for it, but I never got it installed. For my purposes, the only real use would be for fire, as I work from home and am here a ton of the time.

Not that it's the same thing, but that feeling of constantly being watched or listened to is why I'll never got one of those Alexa type deals either. and yeah...I know my iPhone is doing essentially the same thing, but still.

I know this is a hold over of my father having grown up with a mother who never let him have any privacy...poor guy's room was right of the kitchen back in the 40's and had a sheet that covered his door. When he'd complain about it, he'd get the old, "If you're not doing anything wrong why does it matter?" speech! As a parent, he was big on allowing privacy. That stuck with me.

As for Portland, I wish the Earth would open up and swallow the whole thing. I'm not defending those assholes at all...this is just a push back in regards to the ever encroaching surveillance state we live in.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 11:08 am to
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We don't need to turn into London.


I was going to reference London.





That's some Minority Report nonsense right there.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104100 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 11:09 am to
Judas Priest was singing songs about that shite 30+ years ago, such as “Electric Eye”.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65585 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 11:10 am to
I'm torn here. This is not a technology I root for, but I know why these assholes don't want it, and it has nothing to do with personal privacy.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 11:17 am to
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I'm torn here. This is not a technology I root for, but I know why these assholes don't want it, and it has nothing to do with personal privacy.


Exactly. This is obviously a case of criminals wanting to be protected from their crimes.

That said, a broken clock it right twice a day, and even though they're clearly doing this for their own nefarious reasons, not being under 24 hour surveillance in public (or in the case of cameras seeing you on your own property) seems like a good thing to fight against. Small government type of thing.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 11:18 am to
Portland is REAPING what they have SOWN

EVIL Galatians 6:7 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.
This post was edited on 9/10/20 at 11:21 am
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7795 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 11:18 am to
Does not apply to the Feds
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