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re: Video Of Democrat Leaders Coaching Troops To Not Follow "Illegal" Orders

Posted on 11/20/25 at 11:39 am to
Posted by Nosevens
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 11:39 am to
That’s opinions, granted we know the intent. Of course I wish I could gave reached through a screen and grab them by their neck
Posted by Da #1 Stunna
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 11:51 am to
These scumbag traitor parasite politicians should be investigated, arrested and jailed for inciting an insurrectionist coup encouraged by these disgusting cretans.

I am sick to these obstructionist, POS losers. They do not represent our country.

Posted by Bama Mountain
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Posted on 12/3/25 at 7:12 am to
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 12/3/25 at 7:15 am to
Context?

Truncated clip that is in NO WAY similar to the SS Video.

Nice try, you fail.
Posted by Bama Mountain
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Posted on 12/3/25 at 7:24 am to
quote:

Context?


The context is that Obama was President in 2016 when Hegseth told the Liberty Forum of Silicon Valley,

quote:

I do think there have to be consequences for abject war crimes. If you’re doing something that is just completely unlawful and ruthless, then there is a consequence for that. That’s why the military said it won’t follow unlawful orders from their commander-in-chief. There’s a standard, there’s an ethos. There’s a belief that we are above what so many things that our enemies or others would do.


He followed these comments with criticism of Obama



The leader of the GOP called similar comments “SEDITIOUS BEHAVIOR” that should be “punishable by DEATH.”

Rules for thee but not for me.....

Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 12/3/25 at 7:51 am to
Still is in no way similar to what the SS said.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/3/25 at 7:53 am to
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Still is in no way similar to what the SS said.


How is saying not to follow unlawful orders different than saying they won't follow unlawful orders, exactly?
This post was edited on 12/3/25 at 7:54 am
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 12/3/25 at 8:09 am to
Slow, we’ve done this dance two or three times- let’s find something new to fight over.
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Posted on 12/3/25 at 8:14 am to
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How is saying not to follow unlawful orders different than saying they won't follow unlawful orders, exactly?


Why are they emphasizing this NOW?

Why don't they clearly define what the frick they are talking about?

Why don't they state publicly what they believe the illegal orders are?

Do you believe they have specifics in mind? Why would they not state what those are?

A cynic would believe they are trying to sow confusion, you know, like something the CYA would do. I wonder how any of them are connected to the CIA? Since you profess to know everything why don't you tell us how any of them are connected to the CIA?
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 12/3/25 at 8:32 am to
They thought it would be so cool like the celebs did for Obama...

Very insurrectiony
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/3/25 at 8:36 am to
quote:

Why are they emphasizing this NOW?



The ops going on with the drug boats, I reckon.

The admin is pushing the boundaries of legal behavior there.

quote:

Why would they not state what those are?

Why would they?

They can speak generally and create a huge target OR do what you ask and limit that target severely. That seems to be an inefficient strategy to limit themselves when they don't have to.
Posted by VOR
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Posted on 12/3/25 at 8:40 am to
The DOD has definitions for illegal orders.E.G, shooting unarmed civilians/noncombatants. They know the legal boundaries at the officer level.
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 12/3/25 at 8:40 am to
quote:

That’s why the military said it won’t follow unlawful orders from their commander-in-chief. There’s a standard, there’s an ethos. There’s a belief that we are above what so many things that our enemies or others would do.


That was like a different time, man
Posted by retired_tiger
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 12/3/25 at 8:45 am to
Hegseth and Kelly said the same thing. Which is the same thing that the DoD Law of War Manual (warning: large .pdf file) says at page 1075:





So what's the problem with what Kelly said?


If trump didn't have double standards, he would have no standards at all.


Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 12/3/25 at 8:49 am to
quote:

How is saying not to follow unlawful orders different than saying they won't follow unlawful orders, exactly?



He wasn't speaking directly to members of the military. I'd say that's a pretty large difference.
Posted by BTROleMisser
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Posted on 12/3/25 at 10:40 am to
It's sedition. Period.
Posted by BTROleMisser
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Posted on 12/3/25 at 10:41 am to
quote:


Where were these assholes a few years ago when they were getting FISA warrants to bug and listen in on innocent congressmen and intelligence officers ?


(D)ifferent.
Posted by BTROleMisser
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Posted on 12/3/25 at 10:42 am to
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Have any of them bothered to specify which orders are illegal or unconstitutional?


Slotkin was asked point blank on CNN of all places and she couldn't provide an example.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 12/3/25 at 10:43 am to
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 12/3/25 at 10:52 am to
Did Fiona and Christine-Blasey-Ford get full retirement?
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