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re: Victoria’s Secret Is Rebranding, Ditching Angels For Female Power Icons Like Megan Rapinoe

Posted on 6/17/21 at 11:07 am to
Posted by Fells
Member since Jul 2015
4361 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 11:07 am to
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You aren’t straight or a man are you?


What separates me is the outrage. I don't give a shite outside a small amount of satisfaction that all these corporations' market research are showing the same thing: conservatives have lost the culture war. They see it and are betting on it, which just means they are confident in it. NASCAR isn't ran by a bunch of BLM supporting gays yet they slapped a rainbow on their logo. Pretty telling right there.
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
7856 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 11:10 am to
Overpriced drawers.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
48432 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 11:12 am to
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NASCAR isn't ran by a bunch of BLM supporting gays yet they slapped a rainbow on their logo. Pretty telling right there.


NASCAR has been on a downward trajectory for 15 years now. I think they're desperate to try and market to a new fanbase that is never going to come.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138934 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 11:14 am to
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You're lying to yourself. VS is a corporation whose only purpose is to make money. They are legally bound to that by their shareholders. This is quite literally the free market. The government isn't forcing them to do this

This isn't market driven. This is activism disguised as marketing. A vocal extreme minority said they want this, not the average customer.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
28161 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 11:18 am to
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NASCAR isn't ran by a bunch of BLM supporting gays yet they slapped a rainbow on their logo.


New and improved drag racing heading to tracks everywhere
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104097 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 11:23 am to
A huge part of the problem with chasing a new fan base is doing so in a way that increases the decline of your existing fan base.

Look at the NBA. Chasing the Chinese fans causes them a huge amount of problems the last two years.
Posted by Fells
Member since Jul 2015
4361 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 11:23 am to
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This isn't market driven. This is activism disguised as marketing. A vocal extreme minority said they want this, not the average customer.


Again, you're lying to yourself and have absolutely nothing to support this claim. You just want it to be true, but that's it.

If I have to bet on who is right and on one hand is a bunch of huge corporations with the best market research money can buy, whose only decision making motivator is increased profits, and on the other hand, is a bunch of uneducated losers who have absolutely no experience running a huge corporation and are in the middle of a temper tantrum, I'm putting my money on the corporations.
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
10413 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 11:25 am to
I'll put a question on the table.

How do they (either party) reconcile the competing notion of beauty, empowerment and objectification?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104097 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 11:26 am to
Tell yourself that. A lot of people in positions within these organizations don’t have a track record of anything and are trying to convince management that the target markets they want will love this thing.

Or they are trying to convince management that NOT virtue signaling like this will open them up to attacks by SJWs and cost them a ton of money.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
28161 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 11:45 am to
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A lot of people in positions within these organizations don’t have a track record of anything and are trying to convince management that the target markets they want will love this thing.

Or they are trying to convince management that NOT virtue signaling like this will open them up to attacks by SJWs and cost them a ton of money.


They also read the room and say, "well coke and target are in, as well as our 3 biggest competitors, so we better not get left behind"
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138934 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 11:46 am to
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Again, you're lying to yourself and have absolutely nothing to support this claim. You just want it to be true, but that's it.


Where the frick have you been for the last 5 years? Have you heard of the term "Get woke, go broke"? There's a reason that phrase was coined.

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If I have to bet on who is right and on one hand is a bunch of huge corporations with the best market research money can buy, whose only decision making motivator is increased profits, and on the other hand, is a bunch of uneducated losers who have absolutely no experience running a huge corporation and are in the middle of a temper tantrum, I'm putting my money on the corporations.

It's a combination of hiring left wing people (usually under the guise of diversity) and research based almost completely on social media trends - which in no way reflect reality.

I can't believe I have to explain something so simple to an adult. Goddamn, man. Join us in the real world, Peter Pan.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16423 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 11:51 am to
Selling lingerie by using intelligent models sounds like a brilliant idea

Good luck with that
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 11:57 am to
Bump so people can see.
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
13103 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 12:04 pm to
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Bye


Along with the NBA, NFL, Nike, CoCola, Google, Facebook and every other progressive BS crazy arse ideas

Go WOKE go BROKE

Posted by AUHighPlainsDrifter
South Carolina
Member since Sep 2017
3246 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 12:22 pm to
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Again, you're lying to yourself and have absolutely nothing to support this claim. You just want it to be true, but that's it.

If I have to bet on who is right and on one hand is a bunch of huge corporations with the best market research money can buy, whose only decision making motivator is increased profits, and on the other hand, is a bunch of uneducated losers who have absolutely no experience running a huge corporation and are in the middle of a temper tantrum, I'm putting my money on the corporations.


Tell you what then, you should bookmark this thread so that you can come back in a couple of years and show us all how right you were.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
7033 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 12:51 pm to
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If I have to bet on who is right and on one hand is a bunch of huge corporations with the best market research money can buy, whose only decision making motivator is increased profits, and on the other hand, is a bunch of uneducated losers who have absolutely no experience running a huge corporation and are in the middle of a temper tantrum, I'm putting my money on the corporations.


The nice thing about corporatism is you have nowhere to go. The playing field is bought, the market is gamed. That can't last and you can see it slipping. Once China finished stealing the IP of all the idiot corps drooling over their population numbers and slave labor, I feel fairly certain they won't be marketing lingerie to the world with ugly lesbians and overweight models.

Posted by Rogelio
Member since Jan 2021
935 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 1:07 pm to
They should get millenial soy boys to model it.
Posted by Fells
Member since Jul 2015
4361 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 1:09 pm to
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Goddamn, man. Join us in the real world


I like how in your "real world", some random dude like yourself knows more about the conditions these incredibly huge corporations arr acting under then the incredibly experienced people they are paying to come to these conclusions.

The market has shifted. Things like inclusion and diversity are what the population wants because our society has progresses and changes for the better.

The writing is on the wall, and its been written by the invincible hand and market forces that you guys love to screech about. Its hilarious.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
48432 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 1:18 pm to
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Things like inclusion and diversity are what the population wants because our society has progresses and changes for the better.


Posted by Rogelio
Member since Jan 2021
935 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 1:23 pm to
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The writing is on the wall, and its been written by the invincible hand and market forces that you guys love to screech about. Its hilarious.



Yes, it's called Marxist fear. You realize 80% of the population disagrees with this garbage right? Never mind, sounds like you have no idea or don't care.
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