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re: Vance's solution to the rising cost of child care...
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:19 am to CTregistrar
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:19 am to CTregistrar
My child never went to daycare, my MIL wanted to keep him while I worked. Now my DIL's mother and I both keep our grandchild while she works. I support his idea. Maybe if there was more family involvement then you would not have all these shootings and so many kids in the system.
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:25 am to rwestmore7
I feel like the easiest solution is just making childcare costs tax deductible
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:30 am to rwestmore7
We help with ours but not out of necessity. But, if you can't afford child care, keep your legs crossed. Easy enough.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:43 am to IMSA_Fan
This is an idea I support 100%
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:44 am to Diamondawg
Okay boomer
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:45 am to rwestmore7
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It's laughable just how out of touch this guy is with reality
What reality do you live in?
I don’t pay for child care. My Mom watches my infant son on Tues, my Dad and Stepmom on Wed and Fri, and my Aunt does on Thurs.
It’s literally reality.
Seriously, who the frick are you people? How is it that so many Americans are out of touch with reality.
Vance is just giving solutions based off of the life he lived AND ALSO WHAT THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THE COUNTRY HAS RESORTED TO.
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 8:48 am
Posted on 9/6/24 at 9:05 am to FluffyBunnyFeet
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My grandmother would look after me and my brothers all the time when we were kids. What exactly is unrealistic about Vance's suggestion?
I the point is this isn't insightful at all. Obviously everyone who had this option chose it. He's not accounting for the reality of working grandparents/relatives or people whose relatives are dead/estranged. This statement is akin to someone saying help I'm hungry and me going why don't you just go to a restaurant... Sure maybe they can but if they could wouldn't rhey already be there.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 9:19 am to dnm3305
So glad you are blessed enough to have family willing to help.
Do you think we were too stupid to think of that?
Do you think we were too stupid to think of that?
Posted on 9/6/24 at 9:25 am to rwestmore7
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Do you think we were too stupid to think of that?
Of course not, but are you assuming that Vance is talking to you??
Posted on 9/6/24 at 9:32 am to dnm3305
Who in the hell was he talking to then? Who is stupid enough to have not thought to ask family?
Posted on 9/6/24 at 9:33 am to dnm3305
Well it was a question asked by a reporter for a national audience..
So I figured he was talking to you.. me.. the other op.. how am I suppose to know when his comments about a national topic are not suppose to include me?
So I figured he was talking to you.. me.. the other op.. how am I suppose to know when his comments about a national topic are not suppose to include me?
Posted on 9/6/24 at 9:34 am to IMSA_Fan
quote:That sounds lovely. After all, tax "deductions" are basically free, right?
I feel like the easiest solution is just making childcare costs tax deductible
Let's take a realistic look:
Soooo ... is the proposal that everyone gets a childcare costs tax deduction including the top 1%, 5%, or even 10% of taxpayers? Probably not. So excluding the richest 10% of Americans, let's examine those "easiest solution" tax deductions for the 90% of families who might qualify.
The lower 50% of earners certainly should qualify, right?
But .... the lower 50% of earners only pay 2.5% of taxes. So for the lower 50%, we'd be looking at EITC's, not deductions. Everyone else pays for those EITC's.
If we exclude the richest 10% of taxpayers (who already pay ~76% of income taxes), from a childcare tax deduction, one begins to understand there is no "free" to such a "deduction" ..... money is basically being spread around from "the upper 10%" to the remaining 90%.
The remedy would be a Child care deduction with an equivalent spending cut somewhere else in the budget to balance the impact. But that won't happen.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 9:35 am to rwestmore7
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So glad you are blessed enough to have family willing to help.
Do you think we were too stupid to think of that?
Progressives? frick yes you are.
If the gubment isnt paying for it, you people protest and bitch.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 9:37 am to rwestmore7
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Who is stupid enough to have not thought to ask family?
Same people who are stupid enough to not comprehend any solution besides "From each according to his means....."
Posted on 9/6/24 at 9:38 am to rwestmore7
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Do you think we were too stupid to think of that?
You? Probably.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 9:41 am to SlowFlowPro
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I get this as a theoretical issue, but is everyone just going to move to urban areas now and make these metropolises even more powerful/crowded?
That's where the high paying jobs are
This is some of the most illogical grasping I have seen on this board.
1) It isn't theory, it is true. Tons of data out there to support it.
2) How on Earth do you think only people that live in urban areas move away from families? Do you think rural people are anchored there and never move to urban areas? Do you think you cant move to rural areas to ahve kids? This is just an asinine tangent.
3) WTF does having high paying job have to do with being better parents and lowering the divorce rate? Families with less money are probably better in both categories.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 9:43 am to notsince98
Not really a solution since everyone who can do that is doing it. Still a 1000x better than the giant word salad trump offered up yesterday.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 9:44 am to Thecoz
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The question was how to lower cost…
If family helps take care of the kid you dont pay for daycare. It isn't rocket science.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 9:47 am to oklahogjr
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I the point is this isn't insightful at all.
Well how about we hear an actual plan that doesn’t involve handing out more tax munny.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 9:49 am to rwestmore7
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how out of touch this guy is
Grandma helped out a TON, basically raised him in the summer...just like millions of other grandparents.
It's a family's job to make sure their progeny succeeds, nit the State's!
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