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re: Vance's solution to the rising cost of child care...

Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:12 am to
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:12 am to
It is a little out of touch with reality. Coming from broken homes, paw paw, maw maw, and aunties/uncles aren’t there.

I’m not complaining, I deal with my responsibilities. I’m just stating Vance is living in a bubble if he thinks this is going to “solve” the problem.
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 11:13 am
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22726 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:12 am to
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Because this is America where we act like we are exceptional, except when it comes to trying to help the people who are struggling the most.

I'm willing to bet no country in world has shoveled cash at "people who are struggling the most" in the volume we have.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17468 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:12 am to
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Vance is a Don jr production


Wow. A moronic claim with zero substance right from the collective programming sources. Such informative insight.

quote:

Like his GF getting $75k from the people for the 1/6 peptalk


You REALLY want to go there? You wanna look at what democrats charge to speak at colleges and at the same time rail on the cost of college?

The fact that the Biden’s profited off of access and influence by receiving money from overseas?

Waltz’s profit from Chinese contacts?

And you are really going there?
Posted by RustyDaDog
BAOK
Member since Mar 2023
1061 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:15 am to
My grandparents watched me when I was a kid and my parents watched my son WTF is so out of touch with that?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299586 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:16 am to
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Because this is America where we act like we are exceptional, except when it comes to trying to help the people who are struggling the most.


Who needs help the most?

Is your solution throwing money at the problem?

Govt has caused day care rates to rise above the ability of the working class to pay, so you look at Govt, the same one who fricked the system to fix it.

Retard
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299586 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:17 am to
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I’m just stating Vance is living in a bubble if he thinks this is going to “solve” the problem.


Using govt as a nanny is the reason why families have been destroyed.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79981 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:20 am to
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I should advocate to make it easier for the people who are trying to do it now. Because this is America where we act like we are exceptional, except when it comes to trying to help the people who are struggling the most
America doesn't promise that life is or should be easy. Most people are struggling due to their own poor decisions. Blame the people first. Seek government assistance last.
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 11:31 am
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17468 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:23 am to
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Because this is America where we act like we are exceptional, except when it comes to trying to help the people who are struggling the most.


Are you friken kidding? You see how much of the federal expenditure is on entitlements? There are healthy, able bodied people living on government assistance ALONE.

I don’t wanna hear any of you folks complaining, ever again, about the deficit going up during republican presidencies. Ever.

You gripe and moan about “look at the debt under Trump!!1!1!!” And then turn right around and find thing after thing to throw money at. Another government bureaucrat.. another dependency.. another agency to monitor for the single digit percent of fraud that is caught.


Meanwhile the rest of us pays 3x the price for everything because the munny mashine keeps on rolling.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60921 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:30 am to
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Using govt as a nanny is the reason why families have been destroyed.


Separate discussion.

The issue here is Vance is ASSUMING ideal culture instead and highlighting it.

He has ZERO affect on that in government. But that isn’t the question. The question is “what can HE do?”

The answer is preach Jesus and share the gospel and invest in opportunities to rebuild healthy CULTURE again. There is no “quick fix” to this issue other than straight up genocide of retards. The real solution will take decades.

The immediate answer is “I can’t, preaching the gospel can”
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 11:37 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138899 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:31 am to
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Funny stories how Bannon said Trump called his boys morons all the time
Riiiight .... unless they died in war. If they died in war, he would have called them "suckers and losers." Does that just about sum up your insensible "reality"?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299586 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:32 am to
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The issue here is Vance is ASSUMING ideal culture instead and highlighting it.


Ideal? It was once the norm.

Maybe families wouldnt be so separate if they had to depend on each other more.

But keep throwing federal dollars at the problem and watch it price out everyone except the poor.

Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60921 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:35 am to
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Ideal? It was once the norm.


35 years ago

Read my post in full

Reagan always said “we are ONE generation” (20 years) from losing freedom (aka citizens willing to accept responsibility).

We are past that.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299586 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:36 am to
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Ideal? It was once the norm.


35 years ago


Families disintegrated because govt took over many of their functions. Stop doing that, and families will return to prominence.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16055 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:36 am to
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My grandparents watched me when I was a kid and my parents watched my son WTF is so out of touch with that?


It's not out of touch. Progressives just can't help themselves when it comes to blame literally every single thing around them for their problems and asking Daddy government for more cash.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299586 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:38 am to
Deregulate the industry is the only other way to fix it.

Posted by Mscott98
Member since Aug 2024
48 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:38 am to
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Liar. Even Charlie Gasparino who has the same TDS level as Neil Cavuto said he killed it and the guests loved it.


Yeah, this response is genius…

Well, I would do that, and we're sitting down, and I was, somebody, we had Senator Marco Rubio, and my daughter Ivanka was so, uh, impactful on that issue. It's a very important issue. But I think when you talk about the kind of numbers that I'm talking about, that, because, look, child care is child care is. Couldn't, you know, there's something, you have to have it – in this country you have to have it.

But when you talk about those numbers compared to the kind of numbers that I'm talking about by taxing foreign nations at levels that they're not used to — but they'll get used to it very quickly – and it's not gonna stop them from doing business with us, but they'll have a very substantial tax when they send product into our country. Uh, those numbers are so much bigger than any numbers that we're talking about, including child care, that it's going to take care.

We're gonna have - I, I look forward to having no deficits within a fairly short period of time, coupled with, uh, the reductions that I told you about on waste and fraud and all of the other things that are going on in our country, because I have to stay with child care. I want to stay with child care, but those numbers are small relative to the kind of economic numbers that I'm talking about, including growth, but growth also headed up by what the plan is that I just, uh, that I just told you about.

We're gonna be taking in trillions of dollars, and as much as child care, uh, is talked about as being expensive, it's, relatively speaking, not very expensive compared to the kind of numbers we'll be taking in. We're going to make this into an incredible country that can afford to take care of its people, and then we'll worry about the rest of the world. Let's help other people, but we're going to take care of our country first. This is about America first. It's about Make America Great Again, we have to do it because right now we're a failing nation, so we'll take care of it. Thank you. Very good question. Thank you.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299586 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:40 am to
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It's not out of touch. Progressives just can't help themselves when it comes to blame literally every single thing around them for their problems and asking Daddy government for more cash.


Indeed.

"More money" makes the problem worse, not better.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60921 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:44 am to
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Families disintegrated because govt took over many of their functions. Stop doing that, and families will return to prominence.


Families disintegrated due to more than just “the government”

They disintegrated because:

1. Churches were lazy/complacent
2. The masses abandoned biblical teaches (morality and accountability)
3. Corporations acted in their self-interest (as they should) but were unchecked in their greed leading to the manipulation of masses while holding hands with the government via lobbying.
4. The government is represented by retarded puppets seal clapping for corporate donations
5. Many of these huge corporations/Investment firms were put in place by the intelligence community 65 years ago.

We are now a country of citizens that serves as a battery to fuel the USA LLC.

It’s a mult-decade, multi-issue problem affected people on multiple levels. A VP isn’t doing shite.

There needs to be a reset and an investment into moving the culture back.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60921 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:50 am to
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Stop doing that, and families will return to prominence.


How? Families don’t exist like they used to. Families have been replaced by whore mothers, absent fathers, and drug addiction.

Give me a solution that reverses that independent of authority.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299586 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:52 am to
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How? Families don’t exist like they used to


If they had to depend on each other again they would.

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