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re: Vance to midterm voters: “Give us another chance.”

Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:19 am to
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:19 am to
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Purity testers are some of the dumbest people out there

You sure about that? A lack of purity is how we got where we are now
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
60918 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:19 am to
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Desperation


Why don’t you detail the proposal. Be specific. Is it a non-refundable tax credit?
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
5634 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:20 am to
They love people like Ilhan who fight maga
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
60918 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:20 am to
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You sure about that? A lack of purity is how we got where we are now


Politicians have to be pragmatic. Rabid purity testers lack any pragmatism at all. All they do is whine. It’s where they want to be. No real solutions offered. Just whining.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
29327 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:20 am to
Another chance to do what, exactly?

The Republican congress has not tried to do anything to serve the American people. For that they should be forced to sit in the minority for a while.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
125823 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:21 am to
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Social issues


Like open borders?
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
128138 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:22 am to
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…they should be forced to sit in the minority for a while.
They are already in the minority. They just pretend to be in the majority.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
60918 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:22 am to
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The Republican congress has not tried to do anything to serve the American people. For that they should be forced to sit in the minority for a while.


Enjoy your tax cut.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
483203 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:23 am to
Whether open borders is seen a social or economic issue will probably be an interesting sociological experiment, especially that view changing over time in individuals.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
8307 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:24 am to
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Politicians have to be pragmatic. Rabid purity testers lack any pragmatism at all. All they do is whine. It’s where they want to be. No real solutions offered. Just whining

Solutions to what? Problems created by a "pragmatic" government?

Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
5634 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:24 am to
Pretty sure people care more about the border than they do trannies.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
483203 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:25 am to
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Pretty sure people care more about the border than they do trannies.

Probably, but I would wager that the vast majority care about the economic side of the open border and not the social side of the open border.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
111849 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:25 am to
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Whether open borders is seen a social or economic issue will probably be an interesting sociological experiment, especially that view changing over time in individuals.


Seems like it will always incorporate aspects of both, no?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
483203 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:26 am to
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Seems like it will always incorporate aspects of both, no?

I see it at 99-1 or so, to be generous to the "Social" aspect.

It's nothing but an economic issue to me (assuming economic incorporates public spending impacts)
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
3637 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:26 am to
The fact that you can’t grasp that it’s both isn’t surprising. I would think with your vast intellect you could grasp the economic implications of flooding the nations with millions of low skill, poorly educated people but the again you are a lawyer
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
29327 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:26 am to
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Enjoy your tax cut.

Republicans haven't done shite to keep more money in my pocket. The energy and price shocks haven't even hit yet. I don't know what fantasy world you live in but the national republicans are profoundly corrupt and inept. And like in Texas, they are running hard for more openly corrupt candidates.

Enough is enough.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
8307 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:26 am to
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The Republican congress has not tried to do anything to serve the American people

WTF is this? I have been voting since 1988 and have yet to see any congress do anything to serve the American people. All I have seen is congress buying votes and creating more problems.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
60918 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:26 am to
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Solutions to what? Problems created by a "pragmatic" government?


No. If there is zero chance of something passing, you negotiate. The republicans problem is too many pussies don’t know how to negotiate. So you just give up. It’s pathetic.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
483203 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:28 am to
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. I would think with your vast intellect you could grasp the economic implications of flooding the nations with millions of low skill, poorly educated people


Why would you think I saw this as a social issue?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
60918 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:28 am to
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Republicans haven't done shite to keep more money in my pocket.


Estate. Tax exemption doubled. Ordinary income tax rates cut, long term capital gains rates cut, among many many more cuts. None of those helped your pocket? Now we know why you’re a dem. You’re on welfare.
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