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re: Va Gov considers nationalizing the National Guard to enforce gun control.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:44 am to Jjdoc
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:44 am to Jjdoc
The President nationalizes the Guard, not the Governor. If the Governor activates the National Guard for state service the State has to pay for it, Trump isn't going to pay for the VA governor to violate the Second Amendment.
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:45 am to Jjdoc
We’re just daring each other to act at this point.
The Democrats proposed a bill to strip officials of office, if they refuse to enforce the law.
Will the radicals behind Northam follow through on all of these threats?
The Democrats proposed a bill to strip officials of office, if they refuse to enforce the law.
Will the radicals behind Northam follow through on all of these threats?
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 10:57 am
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:45 am to Jjdoc
Gov Northam should lead those troops in blackface
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:46 am to Jjdoc
but the progs on here say you are just paranoid and no one wants to take the guns 
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:46 am to moneyg
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If they refuse orders they will be court marshaled.
Court martial, not marshal.
And that depends on how many do it. Like the old saying goes, if you're broke and you owe the bank $300,000 you've got a problem. If you owe the bank $30,000,000 the bank has a problem.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:48 am to RollTide1987
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These are weekend warriors we are talking about here. Not professional soldiers.
This is ignorant. I saw some dipshits, but I've seen dipshits who were "professional soldiers" as well. Good NG units were nearly indistinguishable from active duty units.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:49 am to CarrolltonTiger
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The President nationalizes the Guard, not the Governor.
Yeah, I took it that the dumbass legislator meant “mobilizing” the Guard.
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 10:50 am
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:52 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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I hear ya man. But you know as well as I that most guys are going to carry out their orders rather than throw it all away. They all have families to feed.
The good news, if you can call it that, is that nobody is feeding a family on mday pay. I think it is more likely that guard soldiers would walk away from such a mission than active duty.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:54 am to Boatshoes
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I think it is more likely that guard soldiers would walk away from such a mission than active duty.
I would think so too because it's not their main source of income. It's also their fellow citizens they'll be dealing with; possibly their friends and neighbors.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:55 am to Flats
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Good NG units
Are few and far between. They exist, but let's not kid ourselves. When I was in ROTC I heard stories of people having to count one push-up as three push-ups just to get some of those NG soldiers to successfully pass a PT test.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:56 am to Jjdoc
Can you imagine mobilizing the National Guard to enforce immigration laws and go to sanctuary cities. The Left would implode.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:56 am to Flats
Why percent of Guard units are good? What percent of regular Army units are good?
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:59 am to AU86
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This is happening in the state that produced Washington, Jefferson, Madison, RE Lee and Stonewall Jackson.
The state has rebelled against a tyrannical Govt before. Actions by the people there now tell me the state still has a fighting spirit
Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:01 am to Lima Whiskey
To the OP.
It was a Virginia house rep that said it. Gov blackface hasn’t said that yet to my knowledge.
The guard members are made up of people who live in communities of people that likely share similar values.
I do not see my boys from the mountains, tidewater or the Piedmont suiting up to take guns from their neighbors.
I don’t have numbers but I’d bet there aren’t many green haired soy boy progstains drilling once a month.
Gov blackface and his proggies better be careful and tread lightly. That is not a threat. It’s good advice.
It was a Virginia house rep that said it. Gov blackface hasn’t said that yet to my knowledge.
The guard members are made up of people who live in communities of people that likely share similar values.
I do not see my boys from the mountains, tidewater or the Piedmont suiting up to take guns from their neighbors.
I don’t have numbers but I’d bet there aren’t many green haired soy boy progstains drilling once a month.
Gov blackface and his proggies better be careful and tread lightly. That is not a threat. It’s good advice.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:01 am to Jjdoc
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Even those who oppose it say he can do it:
Sure he can do it. But the first time the NG shoots down a child and family pet (Ruby Ridge), those anti-government standoffs out in the West will be child's play. That Governor will have to run for his life; the populous will explode.
And most of the NG will refuse to shoot their own neighbors anyway. They know what the Commies in our own midst are up to; and why they REALLY want the guns. One Tweet from POTUS, and it's over.
Foolishness. From fools.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:03 am to RCDfan1950
I’m wondering if Trump can take control over the NG if gov blackface mobilizes them.
You are right though. VA guard ain’t shooting their neighbors.
You are right though. VA guard ain’t shooting their neighbors.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:08 am to Lima Whiskey
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Why percent of Guard units are good? What percent of regular Army units are good?
I have no idea, because presumably the crappy guard units don't make it to the sandbox. From conversations I had, a lot of them were jacked up when called up for Desert Storm. Training was revamped and active duty advisors were assigned to units on a rotation, and the difference when Iraq kicked off was huge.
You can't replicate results training once a month with full time and I'm not suggesting you can. But a lot of that is offset by continuity; some of the guys I talked to had been serving together for 10-15 years. They could damn near read each others minds. They had a squad leader who just came off active duty from 2nd Ranger Bat, and a lot of people in their unit had active duty service under their belt.
I used to think they were weekend warriors too, but that's an insult to the guys I saw. They were professionals. Professionals with less training time, but professionals all the same.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:09 am to Jjdoc
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“may have to nationalize the National Guard to enforce the law” if local authorities refuse to do so themselves.
A law thats unconstitutional. Please try it Northam .
Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:11 am to RCDfan1950
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That Governor will have to run for his life; the populous will explode.
It would end his career.
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:18 am to RollTide1987
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Are few and far between. They exist, but let's not kid ourselves. When I was in ROTC I heard stories of people having to count one push-up as three push-ups just to get some of those NG soldiers to successfully pass a PT test
Now let’s really keep it real. The NG aviation units regularly score higher eval and readiness than active duty units due to funding and soldier to aircraft ratios. They have also served a tremendous amount of time in combat over the last 18 years. But, yeah...ROTC stories.
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