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re: USAID rigged Brazil’s elections & called it aid

Posted on 2/8/25 at 6:51 am to
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10058 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 6:51 am to
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quote:we’ve always tried to interfere just like china and Russia always tried.


Yes, that was kind of my point. They treated it like it was the first time it happened and it was a nothing burger compared to previous attempts.


We “tried it” back then when every taxpayer owned $1400 in National Debt. Now every taxpayer owns $343,000 in National Debt.

We can’t afford that schitt anymore. We’re broke.
Posted by Cleary Rebels
Member since Oct 2024
2899 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 6:54 am to
Democracy me harder -
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35580 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 7:07 am to
Russia is not the good guys.

That said, NO country has interfered with more things worldwide than the US over the course of the last 100 years. NO ONE. We are just know seeing a small glimpse of the scope.

That’s why I always laughed at the “Russian election interference” BS in 2016 because I knew NO ONE does more election “interference” both domestic and abroad than the USA.
Posted by GusMcRae
Deep in the heart of the Big Sleazy
Member since Oct 2008
3782 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 7:17 am to
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You guys are pretty naive if you don't think Russia and China are doing the exact same thing. Every country with any means is doing whatever they can to influence other countries. I can guarantee you that the above two countries aren't going to stop, so if we do then we are in trouble.


Whatever dude. Not mutually exclusive. We can influence hearts and minds without spending absurd sums of money and always in support of leftist ideology. Goddamm communists.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11342 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 7:22 am to
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Somehow Trump and Elon has managed to convince you of that.


We "right wing conspiracy theorists" knew all of this information before Trump was ever elected. There was even a giant thread that discussed these things long before Elon was in Trump's orbit. Many of us could see that our own tax dollars were being used against us before DOGE revealed anything.

The points you use to support your position are subjective. How does overthrowing foreign governments factor in? We're #1, but you rank past actions of the Soviet government above the current actions of our government. The Chernobyl argument doesn't really matter in this context.

Accusing everyone who disagrees with you of blindly following Trump is an easy argument to make, but it's just not convincing. Too many people here have been awake for too long.
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 7:30 am to
“Aero1126”

I can GUARANTEE YOU that Russia IS NOT sponsoring TRANNY MOVEMENT ANYWHERE in the world on behalf of Russian interests!!!!

Take that to the bank.

So your comment makes zero sense and generically clumping the super powers agendas together.

In fact, NOBODY but but the “Hijacked West” is pushing the TRANNY TAKEOVER.

Try a new argument
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61832 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 7:31 am to
Every bit of this USAID garbage boils down to one glaringly obvious thing for me, and that is a United States agency was being used to spread outright Marxism. Of all things the United States could promote, that should cause people to awaken from their slumber. We used to spread western values like democracy, and now we are destabilizing those values to promote that which we once fought vehemently against, hidden under the guise of promoting democracy.


If there are any sane democrats left, and you can break away from your team affiliation for just a second, this is your wake-up call.



Posted by Cleary Rebels
Member since Oct 2024
2899 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 7:40 am to
We put Hussein in power and when he went rogue - weapons of mass destruction
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89717 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 7:42 am to
Russia and China don’t let USCIAID into their country.


Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44206 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 7:43 am to
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when we interfere, most of the time we are trying to get the most democratic side to win.


Your stupidity is astounding.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55454 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 7:53 am to
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when we interfere, most of the time we are trying to get the most democratic side to win.


Your stupidity is astounding.


Four pages of people debating a groomer whose entire premise is that this is all somehow the work of Trump.

This is yet another alter or dumbass progressive this board needs to ignore.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89717 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 7:56 am to
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There's still a difference, when we interfere, most of the time we are trying to get the most democratic side to win



You naive child.

We topple democracies.


Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
7779 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 8:19 am to
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Russia and China are doing the exact same thing. Every country with any means is doing whatever they can to influence other countries.

Of course they are, but our influence shouldn't be in line with them, like the Dems via usaid have been doing, but opposing them.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35492 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 8:38 am to
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when we interfere, most of the time we are trying to get the most democratic side to win.


Surely you don’t really believe that, right?
Posted by Lord of the Hogs
Member since Sep 2023
3636 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 8:53 am to
Good post.
Posted by 4quartaBamaball
Milky Way Galaxy
Member since Nov 2015
1961 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:04 am to
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The US is one of the bad guys.. and I had no idea.. none.. zero


The crazy thing is you're serious. The US Corporation is being dissolved.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55248 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:18 am to
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There’s no chance USAID was involved in rigging our elections, right guys?

They wouldn’t do that, right??


IMHO we have enough evidence right now to conclude that USAID and similar US FedGov programs did indeed rig our POTUS elections, and probably other US elections.

This is the most Un-American thing I've ever seen in my life. And my own USA has been doing this since we allowed the CIA to operate legally inside the USA.

The USA is the leading entity spreading the Globo Homo Culture to the world, and it has used military force and other violence to spread Globo Homo. This is like spreading Evil in the world.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
22003 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:21 am to
It's almost as fun & entertaining , all these libs here, knocking this country to the extent, their version of America is the most evil country in the world.....and has been since its beginning, as Donald Trump winning the election. That's not the country my relatives died fighting for in WWII & Vietnam. God, you people are so entertaining.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
42061 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:30 am to
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We "right wing conspiracy theorists" knew all of this information before Trump was ever elected


None of this should be come as any surprise because stuff like this has been done for years. Cold War Europe, Vietnam, Latin America......A good number of our diplomats aren't really diplomats but working for intelligence....So using USAID to influence political outcomes in other countries is just standard.

What I don't like about it is we are enabling Leftists and Marxists when we should be more like Reagan era USAID and working to influence right wing outcomes.
This post was edited on 2/8/25 at 9:32 am
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:40 am to
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Let that little criminal Zelenski retire to Miami.


No. End him
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